location of native rxvt binaries?

location of native rxvt binaries?

[nate]

Hello!

I have been a cygwin user for at least 16 years now and first off want 
to say thanks
for the hard work!

I have a new Windows 2008 R2 server I would like some basic cygwin tools 
on, one of the
most important is the native rxvt.

But it seems both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions of rxvt included 
with cygwin as
downloaded today are not native, but require X instead. Another telltale 
sign is
there was no windows icon within the rxvt.exe binary in the versions I 
downloaded
today.

I tried copying an older rxvt binary but it did not work.


here is what the current /cygdrive/c/cygwin/bin/rxvt.exe is linked to:

         ntdll.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SYSTEM32/ntdll.dll (0x77400000)
         kernel32.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/system32/kernel32.dll 
(0x772e0000)
         KERNELBASE.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/system32/KERNELBASE.dll 
(0x7fefd1f0000)
         cygwin1.dll => /usr/bin/cygwin1.dll (0x180040000)
         cygX11-6.dll => /usr/bin/cygX11-6.dll (0x3ffed0000)
         cygxcb-1.dll => /usr/bin/cygxcb-1.dll (0x3ff3f0000)
         cygXau-6.dll => /usr/bin/cygXau-6.dll (0x3ffec0000)
         cygXdmcp-6.dll => /usr/bin/cygXdmcp-6.dll (0x3ffeb0000)
         cygXpm-4.dll => /usr/bin/cygXpm-4.dll (0x3ffe90000)

vs the native rxvt on my laptop (not sure how old the installation is 1 
or 2 years).

         ntdll.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SysWOW64/ntdll.dll (0x777c0000)
         kernel32.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/kernel32.dll 
(0x75170000)
         KERNELBASE.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/KERNELBASE.dll 
(0x765c0000)
         cygwin1.dll => /usr/bin/cygwin1.dll (0x61000000)
         USER32.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/USER32.dll 
(0x754f0000)
         GDI32.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/GDI32.dll (0x76e60000)
         LPK.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/LPK.dll (0x77020000)
         USP10.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/USP10.dll (0x76510000)
         msvcrt.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/msvcrt.dll 
(0x76a70000)
         ADVAPI32.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/ADVAPI32.dll 
(0x77050000)
         sechost.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SysWOW64/sechost.dll 
(0x76ef0000)
         RPCRT4.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/RPCRT4.dll 
(0x76cf0000)
         SspiCli.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/SspiCli.dll 
(0x75110000)
         CRYPTBASE.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/CRYPTBASE.dll 
(0x75100000)
         IMM32.DLL => /cygdrive/c/Windows/system32/IMM32.DLL (0x76e00000)
         MSCTF.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/syswow64/MSCTF.dll (0x77120000)

I do recall at one point 64-bit cygwin did not have a native rxvt, I 
came across
this url which seems to indicate that may not be the case anymore:
https://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-64bit-missing

But in any case I tried installing 32-bit first, since that is what I am 
used to
using, and the results were the same. I ran "file" against the 32-bit 
version
to verify it was a 32-bit binary.

I have older cygwin archives but they seem to not be compatible with 
2008 R2, get
lots of post install errors and the cygwin bash does not fire up.

Also tried copying the binary from my laptop as well as another windows 
2008 (non R2)
server, but the binaries did not execute on 2008 R2, ldd says

         ntdll.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SYSTEM32/ntdll.dll (0x77400000)
         ??? => ??? (0x775e0000)
         wow64.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SYSTEM32/wow64.dll (0x72db0000)
         wow64win.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SYSTEM32/wow64win.dll 
(0x72d50000)
         wow64cpu.dll => /cygdrive/c/Windows/SYSTEM32/wow64cpu.dll 
(0x748d0000)

I have done several web searches but all of the results so far seem to 
mirror my
past experience, native binary should be there but for some reason it is 
not.

thanks for any tips..

nate



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Re: location of native rxvt binaries?

[Yaakov Selkowitz]

On 2016-10-06 17:57, nate wrote:
> I have a new Windows 2008 R2 server I would like some basic cygwin tools
> on, one of the most important is the native rxvt.
>
> But it seems both the 32-bit and the 64-bit versions of rxvt included
> with cygwin as downloaded today are not native, but require X instead.

Correct.  The native rxvt was heavily patched, and there was nobody 
interested in porting it to 64-bit or generally supporting it. 
Therefore, it was replaced with the ordinary X-based rxvt.  The default 
terminal emulator, mintty, fills that role and then some, and is what 
you should be using instead if you don't want X11.

-- 
Yaakov

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Re: location of native rxvt binaries?

[nate]

On 2016-10-06 16:04, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:

> Correct.  The native rxvt was heavily patched, and there was nobody
> interested in porting it to 64-bit or generally supporting it.
> Therefore, it was replaced with the ordinary X-based rxvt.  The
> default terminal emulator, mintty, fills that role and then some, and
> is what you should be using instead if you don't want X11.

whoops sorry thought I replied to the list.

Thanks for the update, glad I was not going crazy seeing what I
was seeing.

I managed to get things working just by copying the entire cygwin
directory structure from a win2008 system to the R2 system, I was
expecting stuff to not work because of library registration, but
the basics seem to work(really all I need is stuff like rxvt,
ssh client, vim, less and tail).

nate


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