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* TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
@ 2019-09-08 10:59 Achim Gratz
  2019-09-08 13:20 ` Ken Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Achim Gratz @ 2019-09-08 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin


I'm chasing a recent xfig test failure (i.e. that test was OK about a
year ago) that boils down to this TeX invocation:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
$ tex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159265 (TeX Live 2019/Cygwin) (preloaded format=tex)
**\input tikz
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common-lists.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-plain.def
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/atbegshi.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/infwarerr.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ltxcmds.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.code.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/pgf.revision.tex)))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgfcore.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/systemlayer/pgfsys.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/systemlayer/pgfsys.code.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfkeys.code.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfkeysfiltered.code.tex))
! Undefined control sequence.
\pgfkeyssetevalue ...gfkeys@temptoks =\scantokens 
                                                  \expandafter {\expandafter...

\pgfkeys@ifcsname ...\fi \ifpgfkeys@csname@test #2
                                                  \else #3\fi 
\pgfkeys@ifcsname ...gfkeys@csname@test #2\else #3
                                                  \fi 
\pgfkeys@ifcsname ...gfkeys@csname@test #2\else #3
                                                  \fi 
\pgfkeys@unpack ...pgfeov \else \pgfkeys@case@one 
                                                  \fi \fi 
\pgfkeys@@normal ...pgfkeysnovalue =\pgfkeys@stop 
                                                  \pgfkeys@parse 
...
l.17 \pgfkeys{/pgf/.is family}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

My installation has these packages:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
texlive-collection-basic-20190509-1
texlive-collection-bibtexextra-20190509-1
texlive-collection-binextra-20190509-1
texlive-collection-fontsextra-20190509-1
texlive-collection-fontsrecommended-20190509-1
texlive-collection-fontutils-20190509-1
texlive-collection-formatsextra-20190509-1
texlive-collection-htmlxml-20170520-1
texlive-collection-langgerman-20190509-1
texlive-collection-latex-20190509-1
texlive-collection-latexextra-20190509-1
texlive-collection-latexrecommended-20190509-1
texlive-collection-mathextra-20190509-1
texlive-collection-mathscience-20190509-1
texlive-collection-pictures-20190509-1
texlive-collection-plaingeneric-20190509-1
texlive-collection-xetex-20190509-1
texlive-debuginfo-20190509-1
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Is there a dependency missing or does something else not match up?  I've
already re-generated all formats to no avail.


Regards,
Achim.
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* Re: TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
  2019-09-08 10:59 TeX Live 2019 / TikZ Achim Gratz
@ 2019-09-08 13:20 ` Ken Brown
  2019-09-09  6:53   ` Ken Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2019-09-08 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 9/8/2019 5:03 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> 
> I'm chasing a recent xfig test failure (i.e. that test was OK about a
> year ago) that boils down to this TeX invocation:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> $ tex
> This is TeX, Version 3.14159265 (TeX Live 2019/Cygwin) (preloaded format=tex)
> **\input tikz
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common-lists.tex))
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-plain.def
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/atbegshi.sty
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/infwarerr.sty)
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ltxcmds.sty)
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)))
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.code.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/pgf.revision.tex)))
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgfcore.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/systemlayer/pgfsys.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex)
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/systemlayer/pgfsys.code.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfkeys.code.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfkeysfiltered.code.tex))
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \pgfkeyssetevalue ...gfkeys@temptoks =\scantokens
>                                                    \expandafter {\expandafter...
> 
> \pgfkeys@ifcsname ...\fi \ifpgfkeys@csname@test #2
>                                                    \else #3\fi
> \pgfkeys@ifcsname ...gfkeys@csname@test #2\else #3
>                                                    \fi
> \pgfkeys@ifcsname ...gfkeys@csname@test #2\else #3
>                                                    \fi
> \pgfkeys@unpack ...pgfeov \else \pgfkeys@case@one
>                                                    \fi \fi
> \pgfkeys@@normal ...pgfkeysnovalue =\pgfkeys@stop
>                                                    \pgfkeys@parse
> ...
> l.17 \pgfkeys{/pgf/.is family}
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> My installation has these packages:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> texlive-collection-basic-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-bibtexextra-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-binextra-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-fontsextra-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-fontsrecommended-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-fontutils-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-formatsextra-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-htmlxml-20170520-1
> texlive-collection-langgerman-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-latex-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-latexextra-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-latexrecommended-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-mathextra-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-mathscience-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-pictures-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-plaingeneric-20190509-1
> texlive-collection-xetex-20190509-1
> texlive-debuginfo-20190509-1
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> Is there a dependency missing or does something else not match up?  I've
> already re-generated all formats to no avail.

I'm traveling at the moment, but I'll be able to look at this in about a week.

Ken

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* Re: TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
  2019-09-08 13:20 ` Ken Brown
@ 2019-09-09  6:53   ` Ken Brown
  2019-09-09 12:00     ` Achim Gratz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2019-09-09  6:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 9/8/2019 9:19 AM, Ken Brown wrote:
> On 9/8/2019 5:03 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
>>
>> I'm chasing a recent xfig test failure (i.e. that test was OK about a
>> year ago) that boils down to this TeX invocation:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> $ tex
>> This is TeX, Version 3.14159265 (TeX Live 2019/Cygwin) (preloaded format=tex)
>> **\input tikz
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common-lists.tex))
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-plain.def
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/atbegshi.sty
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/infwarerr.sty)
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ltxcmds.sty)
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)))
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.code.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/pgf.revision.tex)))
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgfcore.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/systemlayer/pgfsys.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex)
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/systemlayer/pgfsys.code.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfkeys.code.tex
>> (/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfkeysfiltered.code.tex))
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> \pgfkeyssetevalue ...gfkeys@temptoks =\scantokens
[...]
> I'm traveling at the moment, but I'll be able to look at this in about a week.

I had a chance to take a quick look, and this is a known problem:

 
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/473365/why-is-pgf-3-1-not-compatible-with-tex

I suspect there's been a new release of PGF that fixes this.  I'll check on it 
and release an appropriate update when I return home.

Ken

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* Re: TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
  2019-09-09  6:53   ` Ken Brown
@ 2019-09-09 12:00     ` Achim Gratz
  2019-09-09 16:41       ` Brian Inglis
  2019-09-13 19:05       ` Ken Brown
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Achim Gratz @ 2019-09-09 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Ken Brown writes:
> I had a chance to take a quick look, and this is a known problem:

Thanks, I hadn't found this for whatever reason.

> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/473365/why-is-pgf-3-1-not-compatible-with-tex
>
> I suspect there's been a new release of PGF that fixes this.  I'll check on it 
> and release an appropriate update when I return home.

It's been fixed here:
https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/508

But the main issue really is that TikZ/PGF need eTeX to work correctly
(the fix above to work with plain TeX loses functionality).  Indeed, if
I change the test in question to use etex, it passes.  I'll report that
upstream as a bug in the test driver (it shouldn't assume that tex or
latex really is an eTeX variant).


Regards,
Achim.
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* Re: TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
  2019-09-09 12:00     ` Achim Gratz
@ 2019-09-09 16:41       ` Brian Inglis
  2019-09-13 19:05       ` Ken Brown
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2019-09-09 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 2019-09-09 00:53, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Ken Brown writes:
>> I had a chance to take a quick look, and this is a known problem:
> 
> Thanks, I hadn't found this for whatever reason.
> 
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/473365/why-is-pgf-3-1-not-compatible-with-tex
>>
>> I suspect there's been a new release of PGF that fixes this.  I'll check on it 
>> and release an appropriate update when I return home.
> 
> It's been fixed here:
> https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/508

That was reverted as closed won't fix and they said - users *MUST NOT* have
*ANY* unnecessary spaces in the definitions of math functions, such as prior to
comments!

> But the main issue really is that TikZ/PGF need eTeX to work correctly
> (the fix above to work with plain TeX loses functionality).  Indeed, if
> I change the test in question to use etex, it passes.  I'll report that
> upstream as a bug in the test driver (it shouldn't assume that tex or
> latex really is an eTeX variant).

ε-Τeχ is now assumed as the default engine by all current formats and packages
except Plain Τeχ, and required for future development as it expands all fixed
register counts from 256 to 32K.

[There looks to be an opportunity for a gΤeχ that removes all arbitrary
limitations, probably imposed because of SAIL or Pascal limitations in original
implementations.]

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* Re: TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
  2019-09-09 12:00     ` Achim Gratz
  2019-09-09 16:41       ` Brian Inglis
@ 2019-09-13 19:05       ` Ken Brown
  2019-09-14 12:42         ` Achim Gratz
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Ken Brown @ 2019-09-13 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 9/9/2019 2:53 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Ken Brown writes:
>> I had a chance to take a quick look, and this is a known problem:
> 
> Thanks, I hadn't found this for whatever reason.
> 
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/473365/why-is-pgf-3-1-not-compatible-with-tex
>>
>> I suspect there's been a new release of PGF that fixes this.  I'll check on it
>> and release an appropriate update when I return home.
[...]
> But the main issue really is that TikZ/PGF need eTeX to work correctly

Right.  The latest release of PGF fixes the problem by issuing an appropriate 
error message instead of an obscure one:

$ tex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159265 (TeX Live 2019/Cygwin) (preloaded format=tex)
**\input tikz
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/plain/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common.tex
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-common-lists.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfutil-plain.def
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/atbegshi.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/infwarerr.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ltxcmds.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/oberdiek/ifpdf.sty)))
(/usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/generic/pgf/utilities/pgfrcs.code.tex
! Package PGF Error: PGF requires etex in extended mode.

I'll update texlive-collection-pictures shortly.

Ken

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* Re: TeX Live 2019 / TikZ
  2019-09-13 19:05       ` Ken Brown
@ 2019-09-14 12:42         ` Achim Gratz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Achim Gratz @ 2019-09-14 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Ken Brown writes:
>> But the main issue really is that TikZ/PGF need eTeX to work correctly
>
> Right.  The latest release of PGF fixes the problem by issuing an appropriate 
> error message instead of an obscure one:
[…]
> I'll update texlive-collection-pictures shortly.

The xfig upstream maintainer meanwhile responded and said that the next
release will use either LaTeX or eTeX for these tests.


Regards,
Achim.
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