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* cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
@ 2020-05-27 11:41 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
  2020-05-29 16:05 ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan @ 2020-05-27 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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Hi,

My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.

I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
title of the window is clear.

Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has reported it,
then I would like to report the issue here.

Attached is the screenshot of the installer to show clear title with blurry
content.

Thank you.

-- 
Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan

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* Re: cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
  2020-05-27 11:41 cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10 Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
@ 2020-05-29 16:05 ` Jon Turney
  2020-05-29 16:32   ` Thomas Wolff
                     ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2020-05-29 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 27/05/2020 12:41, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.
> 
> I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
> title of the window is clear.
> 
> Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has reported it,
> then I would like to report the issue here.

Thanks for reporting this issue.

This is Windows doing "dpi virtualization" (it reports 96 dpi to the 
app, and then upscales what it draws to the actual dpi)

Since we (now) use standard UI elements for everything in setup, it 
should 'just' be a case of marking setup as being able to handle being 
told the real dpi.

I built an updated setup with that change:

https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86_64.exe
https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86.exe

Perhaps you could try that and see if it improves things for you?

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* Re: cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
  2020-05-29 16:05 ` Jon Turney
@ 2020-05-29 16:32   ` Thomas Wolff
  2020-06-02 21:28     ` Jon Turney
  2020-05-29 19:37   ` Csaba Raduly
  2020-06-01  8:50   ` Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Wolff @ 2020-05-29 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Am 29.05.2020 um 18:05 schrieb Jon Turney:
> On 27/05/2020 12:41, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.
>>
>> I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
>> title of the window is clear.
>>
>> Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has 
>> reported it,
>> then I would like to report the issue here.
>
> Thanks for reporting this issue.
>
> This is Windows doing "dpi virtualization" (it reports 96 dpi to the 
> app, and then upscales what it draws to the actual dpi)
>
> Since we (now) use standard UI elements for everything in setup, it 
> should 'just' be a case of marking setup as being able to handle being 
> told the real dpi.
>
> I built an updated setup with that change:
>
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86_64.exe
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86.exe
Looks fine for me, sharp as a knife. However, also the font size is a 
half-point smaller and looks quite spiddly, maybe you could make it a 
point larger?
Thanks
Thomas

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* Re: cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
  2020-05-29 16:05 ` Jon Turney
  2020-05-29 16:32   ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2020-05-29 19:37   ` Csaba Raduly
  2020-06-02 21:28     ` Jon Turney
  2020-06-01  8:50   ` Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Csaba Raduly @ 2020-05-29 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: The Cygwin Mailing List

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:16 PM Jon Turney  wrote:
>
> On 27/05/2020 12:41, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.
> >
> > I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
> > title of the window is clear.
> >
> > Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has reported it,
> > then I would like to report the issue here.
>
> Thanks for reporting this issue.
>
> This is Windows doing "dpi virtualization" (it reports 96 dpi to the
> app, and then upscales what it draws to the actual dpi)
>
> Since we (now) use standard UI elements for everything in setup, it
> should 'just' be a case of marking setup as being able to handle being
> told the real dpi.
>
> I built an updated setup with that change:
>
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86_64.exe
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86.exe
>

Thank you very much. I was waiting for this to happen.

Here's a before-and-after comparison:

https://imgur.com/a/nawlvNd

Csaba
-- 
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by not doing the right thing. - Scott Meyers, An Effective C++11/14 Sampler
So if you're looking for a completely portable, 100% standards-conformant way
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* Re: cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
  2020-05-29 16:05 ` Jon Turney
  2020-05-29 16:32   ` Thomas Wolff
  2020-05-29 19:37   ` Csaba Raduly
@ 2020-06-01  8:50   ` Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan @ 2020-06-01  8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jon Turney; +Cc: The Cygwin Mailing List

Hi Jon,

I tested the installer that you have provided, and the output is very sharp
and clear.

The installer functionality also works as expected.

I hope this version can be made into the official version.

Thank you.

On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 12:05 AM Jon Turney <jon.turney@dronecode.org.uk>
wrote:

> On 27/05/2020 12:41, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.
> >
> > I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
> > title of the window is clear.
> >
> > Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has reported
> it,
> > then I would like to report the issue here.
>
> Thanks for reporting this issue.
>
> This is Windows doing "dpi virtualization" (it reports 96 dpi to the
> app, and then upscales what it draws to the actual dpi)
>
> Since we (now) use standard UI elements for everything in setup, it
> should 'just' be a case of marking setup as being able to handle being
> told the real dpi.
>
> I built an updated setup with that change:
>
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86_64.exe
> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86.exe
>
> Perhaps you could try that and see if it improves things for you?
>


-- 
Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan

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* Re: cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
  2020-05-29 16:32   ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2020-06-02 21:28     ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2020-06-02 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List

On 29/05/2020 17:32, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> Am 29.05.2020 um 18:05 schrieb Jon Turney:
>> On 27/05/2020 12:41, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.
>>>
>>> I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
>>> title of the window is clear.
>>>
>>> Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has 
>>> reported it,
>>> then I would like to report the issue here.
>>
>> Thanks for reporting this issue.
>>
>> This is Windows doing "dpi virtualization" (it reports 96 dpi to the 
>> app, and then upscales what it draws to the actual dpi)
>>
>> Since we (now) use standard UI elements for everything in setup, it 
>> should 'just' be a case of marking setup as being able to handle being 
>> told the real dpi.
>>
>> I built an updated setup with that change:
>>
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86_64.exe
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86.exe
 >
> Looks fine for me, sharp as a knife. However, also the font size is a 
> half-point smaller and looks quite spiddly, maybe you could make it a 
> point larger?

Do you mean change the font size everywhere?

I'm really not keen on that, as it probably means checking and adjusting 
the layout of every dialog (and then looks too small for those of us 
cavemen still using 96 dpi displays)

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* Re: cygwin install blurry on high dpi Windows 10
  2020-05-29 19:37   ` Csaba Raduly
@ 2020-06-02 21:28     ` Jon Turney
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jon Turney @ 2020-06-02 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Cygwin Mailing List; +Cc: Csaba Raduly

On 29/05/2020 20:37, Csaba Raduly via Cygwin wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:16 PM Jon Turney  wrote:
>>
>> On 27/05/2020 12:41, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan via Cygwin wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My office laptop is Windows 10 with a high DPI display.
>>>
>>> I found that the installer is blurry, especially inside the window. The
>>> title of the window is clear.
>>>
>>> Is this something that has been reported before? If nobody has reported it,
>>> then I would like to report the issue here.
>>
>> Thanks for reporting this issue.
>>
>> This is Windows doing "dpi virtualization" (it reports 96 dpi to the
>> app, and then upscales what it draws to the actual dpi)
>>
>> Since we (now) use standard UI elements for everything in setup, it
>> should 'just' be a case of marking setup as being able to handle being
>> told the real dpi.
>>
>> I built an updated setup with that change:
>>
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86_64.exe
>> https://cygwin.com/setup/setup-2.904-4-gaa071e.x86.exe
>>
> 
> Thank you very much. I was waiting for this to happen.

No problem.

I can't fix problems I don't know about[*].

[*] this is not an undertaking to fix problems I do know about. :)

> Here's a before-and-after comparison:
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/nawlvNd

Thanks.

And of course, the logo is a different size, because it's drawn using an 
icon, not an image.

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2020-06-02 21:28     ` Jon Turney
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