Add emacs build with LUCID X toolkit ?

Add emacs build with LUCID X toolkit ?

[Alejandro Benitez]

Hi,
I often painstakingly work on my build of emacs and never look back, praying to never come back, but then I get some annoyances such as vfork issues I can't fix. I will go further on this in a different post.

So, if there's anyone related to the Cygwin's emacs package, pretty please change the widget choice from gtk to lucid / athena, it adds a lot more power to emacs. Otherwise, every time you close the X Server, emacs running in server mode will crash due to a longstanding gtk bug when X display is disconnected. Emacs even outputs a friendly last message with a link to the bug before crashing.

Emacs folks tend to have an eternal emacs server instance running on their PCs that often / can endure killing the Windows console session and then resuming it at your next logon or just keep the fun via ssh. We can't do this with Cygwin's emacs package, so it needs to build emacs yourself. Maybe add a new emacs-lucid package ? And really I guess most emacs users just remove tool-bars, menu-bars, scroll-bars first thing in their config file and use the keyboard. Thanks!

Same request to Fedora: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1471258

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Re: Add emacs build with LUCID X toolkit ?

[Ken Brown]

On 3/5/2018 8:21 AM, Alejandro Benitez wrote:
> Hi,
> I often painstakingly work on my build of emacs and never look back, praying to never come back, but then I get some annoyances such as vfork issues I can't fix. I will go further on this in a different post.

vfork issues almost always indicate a need to do a full rebase.  See

   https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures .

Or switch from 32-bit Cygwin to 64-bit Cygwin, where such problems are 
extremely rare.

> Maybe add a new emacs-lucid package ?

Cygwin's emacs uses GTK+ because that's the default for an emacs build 
on all unix-like platforms.  But I'll think about adding an emacs-lucid 
package for the next emacs release.  It would be good to know how much 
demand there is for this.  Are there other emacs-X11 users who would 
prefer the Lucid toolkit?

Ken


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Re: Add emacs build with LUCID X toolkit ?

[Keith Christian]

Ken,

I use Emacs infrequently, but others might start using it if an
emacs-lucid build means a better performing Emacs on Cygwin.

You'd have Alejandro as a happy customer  (-:

Keith

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Re: Add emacs build with LUCID X toolkit ?

[Markus Hoenicka]

At 2018-03-05 15:03, Ken Brown was heard to say:
> On 3/5/2018 8:21 AM, Alejandro Benitez wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I often painstakingly work on my build of emacs and never look back, 
>> praying to never come back, but then I get some annoyances such as 
>> vfork issues I can't fix. I will go further on this in a different 
>> post.
> 
> vfork issues almost always indicate a need to do a full rebase.  See
> 
>   https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures .
> 
> Or switch from 32-bit Cygwin to 64-bit Cygwin, where such problems are
> extremely rare.
> 
>> Maybe add a new emacs-lucid package ?
> 
> Cygwin's emacs uses GTK+ because that's the default for an emacs build
> on all unix-like platforms.  But I'll think about adding an
> emacs-lucid package for the next emacs release.  It would be good to
> know how much demand there is for this.  Are there other emacs-X11
> users who would prefer the Lucid toolkit?
> 

As an avid emacs user I have no desire to switch to emacs-lucid. If the 
extra work to provide both packages is limited, it would not hurt to 
have both packages though.

just my 2 cc
Markus

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Re: Add emacs build with LUCID X toolkit ?

[Alejandro Benitez]

> vfork issues almost always indicate a need to do a full rebase.

Thank you. I really should have clarified that, I did try several rebaseall approaches to no avail. It seems this emacs build is a bit dated (March 2017) and might be linking to some dll files rebaseall is not honoring. I will post this or a related question in a new thread as soon as I can perform further tests. I just didn't want to wait to do the emacs build with lucid x toolkit suggestion.


El 05/03/2018 a las 11:03 a.m., Ken Brown escribió:
> On 3/5/2018 8:21 AM, Alejandro Benitez wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I often painstakingly work on my build of emacs and never look back, 
>> praying to never come back, but then I get some annoyances such as 
>> vfork issues I can't fix. I will go further on this in a different post.
>
> vfork issues almost always indicate a need to do a full rebase. See
>
>   https://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures .
>
> Or switch from 32-bit Cygwin to 64-bit Cygwin, where such problems are 
> extremely rare.
>
>> Maybe add a new emacs-lucid package ?
>
> Cygwin's emacs uses GTK+ because that's the default for an emacs build 
> on all unix-like platforms.  But I'll think about adding an 
> emacs-lucid package for the next emacs release.  It would be good to 
> know how much demand there is for this.  Are there other emacs-X11 
> users who would prefer the Lucid toolkit?
>
> Ken
>
>
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