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* more man issues?
@ 2021-01-11  6:59 Allen Hewes
  2021-01-11  8:02 ` ASSI
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2021-01-11  6:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Hi,

Did the recent update(s) clobber a previously existing file or symlink in /etc for man?

$ man man
man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/man_db.conf

$ cygcheck -c | grep ^man
man-db                        2.9.3-4                         OK
man-db-create-index           2.9.3-4                         OK
man-db-index-synchronously    2.9.3-4                         OK

$ cygcheck -p man_db.conf
Found 2 matches for man_db.conf
man-db-2.7.6.1-1 - man-db: Man page viewer
man-db-2.9.3-4 - man-db: Man page viewer

$ cygcheck -l man-db | grep '/etc/man_db.conf'
/etc/defaults/etc/man_db.conf

$ uname -a
CYGWIN_NT-10.0 FOUREYES 3.1.7(0.340/5/3) 2020-08-22 17:48 x86_64 Cygwin

On my other not-updated Windows 10 machine, there is an /etc/man_db.conf file. I don't think I put it there (e.g. copy from /etc/defaults).

Shouldn't man "Just Work" post install?

/allen

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* Re: more man issues?
  2021-01-11  6:59 more man issues? Allen Hewes
@ 2021-01-11  8:02 ` ASSI
  2021-01-11  8:31   ` Allen Hewes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ASSI @ 2021-01-11  8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Allen Hewes via Cygwin writes:
> Did the recent update(s) clobber a previously existing file or symlink in /etc for man?

The preremove script will remove that file if it's unchanged from the
default.  So that part seems to have worked.

> $ man man
> man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/man_db.conf

The postinstall script should have reinstated that file as a copy from
/etc/defaults/etc/man_db.conf.  Can you check if you've got an error in
/var/log/setup.log.full from /etc/postinstall/man-db.sh and what it was?
You should be able to re-install man-db to have that script run again.


Regards,
Achim.
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* RE: more man issues?
  2021-01-11  8:02 ` ASSI
@ 2021-01-11  8:31   ` Allen Hewes
  2021-01-11  9:11     ` ASSI
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2021-01-11  8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

>
> The postinstall script should have reinstated that file as a copy from
> /etc/defaults/etc/man_db.conf.  Can you check if you've got an error in
> /var/log/setup.log.full from /etc/postinstall/man-db.sh and what it was?
> You should be able to re-install man-db to have that script run again.
>

2021/01/05 09:53:46 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe "/etc/postinstall/0p_update-info-dir.dash"
2021/01/05 09:53:47 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/man-db.sh"
2021/01/05 09:53:47 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe "/etc/postinstall/man-db-create-index.dash"
2021/01/05 09:53:47 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe "/etc/postinstall/man-db-index-synchronously.dash"
2021/01/05 09:53:48 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/zp_adwaita-icon-theme.sh"
2021/01/05 09:53:48 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/zp_desktop-file-utils.sh"
2021/01/05 09:53:48 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/zp_fontconfig_cache_1.sh"
2021/01/05 09:53:50 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe "/etc/postinstall/zp_fontconfig_dtd.dash"
2021/01/05 09:53:50 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/zp_glib2.0.sh"
2021/01/05 09:53:50 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/zp_hicolor-icon-theme.sh"
2021/01/05 09:53:50 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe "/etc/postinstall/zp_man-db-update-index.dash"
  ManDB index update starting...
  ... ManDB index update complete.
/etc/postinstall/zp_man-db-update-index.dash: 14: exec: 3: not found
2021/01/05 09:56:07 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/zp_shared-mime-info.sh"
2021/01/05 09:56:08 Changing gid to Administrators

I ran C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/man-db.sh" manually at a bash prompt and I got back the /etc/man_db.conf file.

I don't know if this has any bearing, but there's *.done files for the post install man scripts:
ls -al /etc/postinstall/ | grep man
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users  258 Jan  7 14:44 man-db.sh*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users  258 Jan  4 09:55 man-db.sh.done*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users   78 Jan  7 14:44 man-db-create-index.dash*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users   78 Jan  4 09:55 man-db-create-index.dash.done*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users   56 Jan  7 14:44 man-db-index-synchronously.dash*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users   56 Jan  4 09:55 man-db-index-synchronously.dash.done*
-rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users  775 Jan  7 14:44 zp_man-db-update-index.dash*

/allen

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* Re: more man issues?
  2021-01-11  8:31   ` Allen Hewes
@ 2021-01-11  9:11     ` ASSI
  2021-01-11  9:28       ` Allen Hewes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ASSI @ 2021-01-11  9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Allen Hewes via Cygwin writes:
> 2021/01/05 09:53:50 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe "/etc/postinstall/zp_man-db-update-index.dash"
>   ManDB index update starting...
>   ... ManDB index update complete.
> /etc/postinstall/zp_man-db-update-index.dash: 14: exec: 3: not found

That indicates you didn't install the latest version of the package yet,
although that doesn't explain what happened to the configuration file.

> I ran C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/man-db.sh" manually at a bash prompt and I got back the /etc/man_db.conf file.

Please update to the latest version of man-db so you get the bugfixed
perpetual postinstall file.

> I don't know if this has any bearing, but there's *.done files for the
> post install man scripts:

That is basicall to give you a hint of what has been done before the
latest install (if anything).  Not sure if that is still useful, but in
any case that isn't an issue here.

> -rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users   56 Jan  7 14:44 man-db-index-synchronously.dash*

You'll probably want to de-install the man-db-index-synchronously
package so the index update is done in the background.


Regards,
Achim.
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* RE: more man issues?
  2021-01-11  9:11     ` ASSI
@ 2021-01-11  9:28       ` Allen Hewes
  2021-01-11 11:01         ` ASSI
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2021-01-11  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> > 2021/01/05 09:53:50 running: C:\cygwin64\bin\dash.exe
> "/etc/postinstall/zp_man-db-update-index.dash"
> >   ManDB index update starting...
> >   ... ManDB index update complete.
> > /etc/postinstall/zp_man-db-update-index.dash: 14: exec: 3: not found
>
> That indicates you didn't install the latest version of the package yet,
> although that doesn't explain what happened to the configuration file.
>

Based on https://cygwin.com/packages/summary/man-db-src.html, I have the latest installed:
cygcheck -c | grep ^man
man-db                        2.9.3-4                         OK
man-db-create-index           2.9.3-4                         OK

(after removing the man-db-index-synchronously package)

I installed those on 01/07/2021.

> > I ran C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe --norc --noprofile "/etc/postinstall/man-
> db.sh" manually at a bash prompt and I got back the /etc/man_db.conf file.
>
> Please update to the latest version of man-db so you get the bugfixed
> perpetual postinstall file.
>

Meh, while there's churn in the man packaging, I'll either run the postinstall script(s) myself or use MANOPT. I need working man pages.

> > I don't know if this has any bearing, but there's *.done files for the
> > post install man scripts:
>
> That is basicall to give you a hint of what has been done before the latest
> install (if anything).  Not sure if that is still useful, but in any case that isn't an
> issue here.
>
> > -rwxr-xr-x  1 allen Domain Users   56 Jan  7 14:44 man-db-index-
> synchronously.dash*
>
> You'll probably want to de-install the man-db-index-synchronously package
> so the index update is done in the background.

Done:
2021/01/05 09:53:34 Uninstalling man-db-index-synchronously

I also removed the leftovers not handled by setup:
rm -rf /etc/postinstall/man-db-index-synchronously.dash.done

/allen

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* Re: more man issues?
  2021-01-11  9:28       ` Allen Hewes
@ 2021-01-11 11:01         ` ASSI
  2021-01-11 11:11           ` Allen Hewes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: ASSI @ 2021-01-11 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

Allen Hewes via Cygwin writes:
>> That indicates you didn't install the latest version of the package yet,
>> although that doesn't explain what happened to the configuration file.
>>
>
> Based on https://cygwin.com/packages/summary/man-db-src.html, I have the latest installed:
> cygcheck -c | grep ^man
> man-db                        2.9.3-4                         OK
> man-db-create-index           2.9.3-4                         OK
>
> (after removing the man-db-index-synchronously package)
>
> I installed those on 01/07/2021.

But your setup.log snippet was from January 5… and not setup.log.full as
I had asked about.  I have to go by the things you show, not the things
I don't know about.  :-)


Regards,
Achim.
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* RE: more man issues?
  2021-01-11 11:01         ` ASSI
@ 2021-01-11 11:11           ` Allen Hewes
  2021-01-11 11:44             ` Allen Hewes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2021-01-11 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> >
> > (after removing the man-db-index-synchronously package)
> >
> > I installed those on 01/07/2021.
>
> But your setup.log snippet was from January 5… and not setup.log.full as I
> had asked about.  I have to go by the things you show, not the things I don't
> know about.  :-)
>
>

How odd indeed. Those are the last lines by date in the log file...

Cygcheck -c says I have the latest man-db packages installed.

I didn't write it, I'm just an end-user. :shrugs:

/allen

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* RE: more man issues?
  2021-01-11 11:11           ` Allen Hewes
@ 2021-01-11 11:44             ` Allen Hewes
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Allen Hewes @ 2021-01-11 11:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

> > > (after removing the man-db-index-synchronously package)
> > >
> > > I installed those on 01/07/2021.
> >
> > But your setup.log snippet was from January 5… and not setup.log.full
> > as I had asked about.  I have to go by the things you show, not the
> > things I don't know about.  :-)
> >
> >
>
> How odd indeed. Those are the last lines by date in the log file...
>
> Cygcheck -c says I have the latest man-db packages installed.
>
> I didn't write it, I'm just an end-user. :shrugs:
>
> /allen

Gah! I sent you lines from /var/log/setup.log and not /var/log/setup.log.full because the later had no lines in it for man-db.

Now that I know what to look for, my other machines don't have this man-db update. I'll check those and report back if I find anything.

/allen

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