cygwin not showing afp files since update

cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Franz Joseph Bowman]

# Since we updated to 2-10-0.1, something in cygwin makes some files
hidden in some cases.

# Just listing with the name works
$ ls -n RSC0388_618C5.afp
-rw-rw-rw-+ 1 1558598 1049089 198483 May  2 14:15 RSC0388_618C5.afp
$ ls RSC0388_618C5.afp
RSC0388_618C5.afp

The filesystem globbing when using ls does not see the same file
$ ls *.afp
ls: cannot access '*.afp': No such file or directory

# if I copy the file in cygwin the user name and domain are different
and now I am allowed to see them
$ cp RSC0388_618C5.afp my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
$ ls -n *.afp
-rw-rw-r--+ 1 544 1049089 198483 May  2 15:50 my_RSC0388_618C5.afp

This was in 64 bit cygwin.  I installed an old 32 bit cygwin alongside
and it sees the files.

Please help.


Regards,

Joe Bowman | Lead Programmer, BCS App Dev | RR Donnelley
franz _DOT_ j _DOT_ bowman _AT_ rrd _DOT_ com

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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Marco Atzeri]

On 5/2/2018 11:57 PM, Franz Joseph Bowman wrote:
> # Since we updated to 2-10-0.1, something in cygwin makes some files
> hidden in some cases.
> 
> # Just listing with the name works
> $ ls -n RSC0388_618C5.afp
> -rw-rw-rw-+ 1 1558598 1049089 198483 May  2 14:15 RSC0388_618C5.afp
> $ ls RSC0388_618C5.afp
> RSC0388_618C5.afp
> 
> The filesystem globbing when using ls does not see the same file
> $ ls *.afp
> ls: cannot access '*.afp': No such file or directory
> 
> # if I copy the file in cygwin the user name and domain are different
> and now I am allowed to see them
> $ cp RSC0388_618C5.afp my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
> $ ls -n *.afp
> -rw-rw-r--+ 1 544 1049089 198483 May  2 15:50 my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
> 
> This was in 64 bit cygwin.  I installed an old 32 bit cygwin alongside
> and it sees the files.
> 
> Please help.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Bowman  

Hi Joe,
Use last cygwin snapshot
https://cygwin.com/snapshots/

it has a correction for that issue

https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-02/msg00162.html
https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-02/msg00228.html




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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Franz Joseph Bowman]

It looks like the program that created them is putting the T attribute
which means Temporary.
I don't think this used to hide them in cygwin but now it does.
Is this by design?  My coworker is using 32 bit Cygwin and is having
the same issue.

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Joe Bowman wrote:
>
> # Since we updated to 2-10-0.1, something in cygwin makes some files
> hidden in some cases.
>
> # Just listing with the name works
> $ ls -n RSC0388_618C5.afp
> -rw-rw-rw-+ 1 1558598 1049089 198483 May  2 14:15 RSC0388_618C5.afp
> $ ls RSC0388_618C5.afp
> RSC0388_618C5.afp
>
> The filesystem globbing when using ls does not see the same file
> $ ls *.afp
> ls: cannot access '*.afp': No such file or directory
>
> # if I copy the file in cygwin the user name and domain are different
> and now I am allowed to see them
> $ cp RSC0388_618C5.afp my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
> $ ls -n *.afp
> -rw-rw-r--+ 1 544 1049089 198483 May  2 15:50 my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
>
> This was in 64 bit cygwin.  I installed an old 32 bit cygwin alongside
> and it sees the files.
>
> Please help.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Joe Bowman | Lead Programmer, BCS App Dev | RR Donnelley
> franz _DOT_ j _DOT_ bowman _AT_ rrd _DOT_ com

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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Franz Joseph Bowman]

More information.  It looks like Temporary files are created when
using Print To File from Adobe.
I went back and looked at old Postscript and AFP files created that
way and Cygwin cannot see them when listing the directory or perl
globbing.  When specifying the whole filename, ls does see the file.


Please email me if you have any help at franz D-O-T j D-O-T bowman A-T
rrd D-O-T com

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Joe Bowman | Lead Programmer, BCS App Dev | RR Donnelley
1550 Lakeway Drive Ste 600 | Lewisville, TX 75057


On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Joe Bowman wrote:
> It looks like the program that created them is putting the T attribute
> which means Temporary.
> I don't think this used to hide them in cygwin but now it does.
> Is this by design?  My coworker is using 32 bit Cygwin and is having
> the same issue.
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Joe Bowman wrote:
>>
>> # Since we updated to 2-10-0.1, something in cygwin makes some files
>> hidden in some cases.
>>
>> # Just listing with the name works
>> $ ls -n RSC0388_618C5.afp
>> -rw-rw-rw-+ 1 1558598 1049089 198483 May  2 14:15 RSC0388_618C5.afp
>> $ ls RSC0388_618C5.afp
>> RSC0388_618C5.afp
>>
>> The filesystem globbing when using ls does not see the same file
>> $ ls *.afp
>> ls: cannot access '*.afp': No such file or directory
>>
>> # if I copy the file in cygwin the user name and domain are different
>> and now I am allowed to see them
>> $ cp RSC0388_618C5.afp my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
>> $ ls -n *.afp
>> -rw-rw-r--+ 1 544 1049089 198483 May  2 15:50 my_RSC0388_618C5.afp
>>
>> This was in 64 bit cygwin.  I installed an old 32 bit cygwin alongside
>> and it sees the files.
>>
>> Please help.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Joe Bowman | Lead Programmer, BCS App Dev | RR Donnelley
>> franz _DOT_ j _DOT_ bowman _AT_ rrd _DOT_ com

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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Marco Atzeri]

On 5/3/2018 8:15 PM, Franz Joseph Bowman wrote:
> More information.  It looks like Temporary files are created when
> using Print To File from Adobe.
> I went back and looked at old Postscript and AFP files created that
> way and Cygwin cannot see them when listing the directory or perl
> globbing.  When specifying the whole filename, ls does see the file.
> 
> 
> Please email me if you have any help at franz D-O-T j D-O-T bowman A-T
> rrd D-O-T com

Franz,
We expect people that post on this mailing list are also reading it.


https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2018-05/msg00032.html



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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Kaz Kylheku]

On 2018-05-03 12:30, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> On 5/3/2018 8:15 PM, Franz Joseph Bowman wrote:
>> More information.  It looks like Temporary files are created when
>> using Print To File from Adobe.
>> I went back and looked at old Postscript and AFP files created that
>> way and Cygwin cannot see them when listing the directory or perl
>> globbing.  When specifying the whole filename, ls does see the file.
>> 
>> 
>> Please email me if you have any help at franz D-O-T j D-O-T bowman A-T
>> rrd D-O-T com
> 
> Franz,
> We expect people that post on this mailing list are also reading it.

That's a very rude/silly expectation: that to discuss something,
you have to subscribe to receive discussions about topics you
don't care about. (Topics which are being archived in quasi-real-time,
so you can read them anyway!)

What you've done there (adding F. J. to the Cc: line) is what any
properly configured mailing list should be doing in the first place.

Or, rather, the reply to F. J.'s message should be "To: F. J. ..."
and then "cygwin AT cygwin.com" should be in the Cc: line.

Classically speaking, of course, harkening to a time before this
"Reply-To munging" bullshit became fashionable on mailing lists.


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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Marco Atzeri]

On 5/3/2018 11:34 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2018-05-03 12:30, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>> On 5/3/2018 8:15 PM, Franz Joseph Bowman wrote:

>>>
>>> Please email me if you have any help at franz D-O-T j D-O-T bowman A-T
>>> rrd D-O-T com
>>
>> Franz,
>> We expect people that post on this mailing list are also reading it.
> 
> That's a very rude/silly expectation: that to discuss something,
> you have to subscribe to receive discussions about topics you
> don't care about. (Topics which are being archived in quasi-real-time,
> so you can read them anyway!)
> 

Franz,
you are wrong, this is a mailing list, not a help desk.
The default reply on any mailing list is to the list only.

Nothing until your 3rd mail gave me any reason to assume
you were not on the mailing list.

Regards
Marco





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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Marco Atzeri]

On 5/4/2018 7:39 AM, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> On 5/3/2018 11:34 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

>> That's a very rude/silly expectation: that to discuss something,
>> you have to subscribe to receive discussions about topics you
>> don't care about. (Topics which are being archived in quasi-real-time,
>> so you can read them anyway!)
>>
> 
> Franz,

s/Franz/Kaz

too ealy in the morning. Brain not fully active..

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Re: cygwin not showing afp files since update

[Eric Blake]

On 05/04/2018 12:39 AM, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>>> We expect people that post on this mailing list are also reading it.
>>
>> That's a very rude/silly expectation: that to discuss something,
>> you have to subscribe to receive discussions about topics you
>> don't care about. (Topics which are being archived in quasi-real-time,
>> so you can read them anyway!)
>>
> 
> Franz,
> you are wrong, this is a mailing list, not a help desk.
> The default reply on any mailing list is to the list only.

Actually, MOST mailing lists are sane and let 'reply-all' reply to the 
list AND to the original sender.  This is one of the few lists that 
munges reply-to settings and breaks my expectations.  I wish we could 
fix it, but I'm not in charge of the mailing list settings.

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