From: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>
To: "cygwin@cygwin.com" <cygwin@cygwin.com>
Subject: Re: Regression (last snapshot)
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 18:56:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5d01965-80b9-cece-54d2-f7462f84c0a2@cornell.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190729154049.GR11632@calimero.vinschen.de>
On 7/29/2019 11:40 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Jul 29 17:23, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>> On Jul 29 14:26, Ken Brown wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2019 9:47 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>>> On Jul 29 13:18, Ken Brown wrote:
>>>>> $ strace -o trace.out ls -lL <(grep bash .bashrc)
>>>>> ls: cannot access '/dev/fd/63': No such file or directory
>>>>
>>>> No, please run bash:
>>>>
>>>> strace -o trace.out bash -c 'ls -lL <(grep bash .bashrc)'
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise there's no process actually creating the pipe, given the <()
>>>> expression is a bash expression.
>>>
>>> Yes, of course. I should have realized this since it's exactly what I
>>> did under gdb. Anyway, the result is the same as it was under gdb: If
>>> I run the command under strace, I don't see the broken pipe error.
>>>
>>> Is it possible that debugging causes an fd to the read end of the pipe
>>> to stay open longer, thereby preventing the error?
>>
>> The fact that you observe it sporadically points to a race condition.
>> Debugging serializes stuff usually running in parallel, potentially
>> eliminating the race.
>
> Is there any chance this is a BLODA problem?
I doubt it. I'm seeing this on two different computers, and I haven't seen any
other symptoms suggesting BLODA.
> If /dev/fd/63 doesn't
> exist in ls, it would mean ls didn't inherit the FIFO, which sounds
> very unlikely.
Actually I never saw an ls error saying /dev/fd/63 doesn't exist, except in my
incorrect run of strace.
Here's the error that I can reproduce easily in xterm:
$ ls <(grep bash .bashrc)
/dev/fd/63
grep: write error: Broken pipe
This happens 98% of the time. Notice that I used plain 'ls' rather than the
original 'ls -lL'. With the latter, I get the broken pipe error 60% of the time
rather than 98%:
$ ls -lL <(grep bash .bashrc)
pr-------- 1 kbrown None 0 2019-07-29 14:46 /dev/fd/63
grep: write error: Broken pipe
What about the explanation I tried earlier, but perhaps not clearly: ls prints
/dev/fd/63 and then exits, thereby closing the read end of the pipe, while grep
(running asynchronously) hasn't finished writing to the write end of the pipe.
The fact that I get the broken pipe error more often with plain 'ls' than with
'ls -lL' is consistent with that. And the fact that I get no errors with 'cat
<(grep bash .bashrc)' is also consistent with it, since cat doesn't exit until
grep has finished writing.
On the other hand, this doesn't explain why I see the error only under xterm,
nor does it explain why you can't reproduce it at all.
Ken
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-29 18:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-20 22:55 Houder
2019-07-21 9:38 ` Houder
2019-07-21 9:42 ` Houder
2019-07-22 12:23 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-22 13:44 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-22 15:20 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-22 15:53 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-22 16:45 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-22 18:47 ` Houder
2019-07-26 22:12 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-27 0:14 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-27 10:21 ` Houder
2019-07-27 15:24 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-27 16:25 ` Houder
2019-07-29 8:45 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-29 13:18 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-29 13:35 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-29 13:48 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-29 13:47 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-29 14:26 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-29 15:23 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-29 15:40 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-07-29 18:56 ` Ken Brown [this message]
2019-07-31 15:53 ` Ken Brown
2019-07-31 18:00 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-01 9:01 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-08-01 14:27 ` Jon Turney
2019-08-01 15:30 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-01 15:38 ` Eric Blake
2019-08-01 16:04 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-08-01 21:17 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-02 2:32 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-02 14:34 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-02 15:04 ` Corinna Vinschen
2019-08-02 21:26 ` Brian Inglis
2019-08-02 21:53 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-02 21:58 ` Eric Blake
2019-08-03 3:50 ` Brian Inglis
2019-08-03 13:14 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-04 16:52 ` Houder
2019-08-01 10:03 ` Houder
2019-08-01 10:46 ` Houder
2019-08-01 12:20 ` Ken Brown
2019-08-01 14:29 ` Houder
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