/bin/mail anyone?

/bin/mail anyone?

[itz]

I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
mail mode?)

If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
I'll eventually write one.

I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build, but
the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Robert Bresner]

D:\dev_stuff\usr\local\share>windmail --version
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] WindMail v3.05 mailer for WIN32 (95/NT) (200
evaluation uses left)
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Visit http://www.geocel.com/ for
registration information
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Command line specifies no mode of supplying
recipeients (tokens separated by ~).
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] windmail~--version~
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] No valid recipients.



itz@lbin.com wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
> impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
> on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
> want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
> AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
> are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
> mail mode?)
> 
> If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
> I'll eventually write one.
> 
> I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build, but
> the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(
> 
> --
> Ian Zimmerman
> Lightbinders, Inc.
> 2325 3rd Street #324
> San Francisco, California 94107
> U.S.A.
> 
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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

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   D:\dev_stuff\usr\local\share>windmail --version
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] WindMail v3.05 mailer for WIN32 (95/NT) (200
   evaluation uses left)
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Visit http://www.geocel.com/ for
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   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] windmail~--version~
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] No valid recipients.

I should have made it clear that I was looking for free software.

   itz@lbin.com wrote:
   > 
   > I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
   > impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
   > on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
   > want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
   > AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
   > are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
   > mail mode?)
   > 
   > If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
   > I'll eventually write one.

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Check Sergey's web site at http://miracle.geol.msu.ru/sos/
He has sendmail for B19.  You might try coping Cygwin1.dll to Cygwinb19.dll and see if it works for you.

Suhaib


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>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] windmail~--version~
>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] No valid recipients.
> 
> I should have made it clear that I was looking for free software.
> 
>    itz@lbin.com wrote:
>    > 
>    > I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
>    > impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
>    > on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
>    > want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
>    > AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
>    > are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
>    > mail mode?)
>    > 
>    > If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
>    > I'll eventually write one.
> 
> -- 
> Ian Zimmerman
> Lightbinders, Inc.
> 2325 3rd Street #324
> San Francisco, California 94107
> U.S.A.
> 
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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Mumit Khan]

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 itz@lbin.com wrote:

> I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
> impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
> on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
> want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
> AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
> are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
> mail mode?)
> 
> If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
> I'll eventually write one.
> 
> I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build, but
> the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(
> 

Others have suggested sendmail already, so I won't plug it. I have access
to AT&T sources, and I see a terrific little mailx implementation that
handles remote smpt servers. Is there a free implementation? This is not 
the same mailx that's usually part of Linux distributions, sorry.

If you're using Emacs, why not use the VM package. I don't use it, but
I seem to remember that it supports POP2/3 etc. There must be dozens
of other elisp packages out there.

Emacs will gladly replace me in my kitchen if I let it (which I won't!), 
so it must already support remote mailers.

One choice folks interested in a "batch" MUA may consider the new
incarnations of fetchmail, which can forward/tunnel mail through smtp
connection.

Regards,
Mumit



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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Glenn Spell]

On 18 Jun 1999 at 3:38PM (-0700) itz@lbin.com wrote:

> I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
> impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a
> message on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.

Wayne Buttles distributes a copy of the old freeware version of Nigel
Ellis' "sendmail/NT" stub with the Win32 port of Lynx.  It can use
either XMAPI(allow edit before send)/MAPI or SMTP as transport. I
don't believe it accepts STDIN. Executable is about 38KB.

    < http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/lynxport.htm >

An updated shareware version that does accept STDIN is available
from Nigel's site as "Border Collie Ware". Unregistered versions are
limited to two recipients, one attachment and a message body size of
4K. Executable is about 132KB.

    < http://www.green-bean.com/bcware/ >

"Blat" is a public domain utility with some nice features. It's
probably the most popular of all the ones in this list. There are
several different versions available from different authors.  The
version 1.8.4 executable from Tim Charron is about 30KB.

    < http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/blat.html >

Stalkerlab's Mailers Kit contains a "mail.exe" that has a command
line syntax similar to BSD UNIX. It can do pipes or redirections.
The "mail.exe" executable is about 48KB. Be sure to download the
"hotfix" for "mail.exe" (see their FAQ). This is freeware.

    < http://www.stalkerlab.ch/SMailers/ >

> I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build,
> but the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(

There's an old NT-only port of sendmail at Microsoft. Since I don't
run NT, I don't know anything about this port.

    < ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/developr/drg/unix-to-windows/ >

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

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   On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 itz@lbin.com wrote:

   > I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
   > impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a
   > message on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need
   > this because I want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as
   > I do on Unix, and AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP
   > itself.  (Actually, there are the smtpmail and feedmail packages,
   > but how to integrate them into mail mode?)
   >  If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough
   > that I'll eventually write one.
   >  I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build,
   > but the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(
   >

   Others have suggested sendmail already, so I won't plug it. I have
   access to AT&T sources, and I see a terrific little mailx
   implementation that handles remote smpt servers. Is there a free
   implementation? This is not the same mailx that's usually part of
   Linux distributions, sorry.

   If you're using Emacs, why not use the VM package. I don't use it,
   but I seem to remember that it supports POP2/3 etc. There must be
   dozens of other elisp packages out there.

Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to send
messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

   One choice folks interested in a "batch" MUA may consider the new
   incarnations of fetchmail, which can forward/tunnel mail through
   smtp connection.

Do they accept mail on stdin?  I was an early fetchmail adopter under
Linux and that would be a surprise to me, knowing that fetchmail
consciously (almost rigidly) applies the "one job only" philosophy.

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San Francisco, California 94107
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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[David Starks-Browning]

> Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
> ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to send
> messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

It wasn't clear to me why you couldn't just use smtpmail.el on emacs,
in order to get it to talk SMTP.  What was the problem with that
approach?

David

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Re: /bin/mail anyone? [SOLVED]

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   > Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
   > ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to
   > send messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

   It wasn't clear to me why you couldn't just use smtpmail.el on
   emacs, in order to get it to talk SMTP.  What was the problem with
   that approach?

The problem was that I was too spoiled by years of Unix experience
(where s(end)?mail was always available) to know how to plug in
smtpmail.  In fact it was trivial, basically just

(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)

But it took your post to make me look at the Lisp code and do it, for
which many thanks :-)

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Stipe Tolj]

> Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
> ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to send
> messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

Leif Jackson <leif@islenet.org> has provided us a sendmail-8.9.3 patch for Cygwin.

It will be part of the upcoming Cygwin DEV CD, but I have not tested it yet. If there is
anyone to contribute in the development and wishes to test this please request the patch
from Leif or me.

Regards,
Stipe

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Re: /bin/mail anyone? [SOLVED]

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   > Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
   > ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to
   > send messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

   It wasn't clear to me why you couldn't just use smtpmail.el on
   emacs, in order to get it to talk SMTP.  What was the problem with
   that approach?

The problem was that I was too spoiled by years of Unix experience
(where s(end)?mail was always available) to know how to plug in
smtpmail.  In fact it was trivial, basically just

(setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)

But it took your post to make me look at the Lisp code and do it, for
which many thanks :-)

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Glenn Spell]

On 18 Jun 1999 at 3:38PM (-0700) itz@lbin.com wrote:

> I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
> impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a
> message on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.

Wayne Buttles distributes a copy of the old freeware version of Nigel
Ellis' "sendmail/NT" stub with the Win32 port of Lynx.  It can use
either XMAPI(allow edit before send)/MAPI or SMTP as transport. I
don't believe it accepts STDIN. Executable is about 38KB.

    < http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/lynxport.htm >

An updated shareware version that does accept STDIN is available
from Nigel's site as "Border Collie Ware". Unregistered versions are
limited to two recipients, one attachment and a message body size of
4K. Executable is about 132KB.

    < http://www.green-bean.com/bcware/ >

"Blat" is a public domain utility with some nice features. It's
probably the most popular of all the ones in this list. There are
several different versions available from different authors.  The
version 1.8.4 executable from Tim Charron is about 30KB.

    < http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/blat.html >

Stalkerlab's Mailers Kit contains a "mail.exe" that has a command
line syntax similar to BSD UNIX. It can do pipes or redirections.
The "mail.exe" executable is about 48KB. Be sure to download the
"hotfix" for "mail.exe" (see their FAQ). This is freeware.

    < http://www.stalkerlab.ch/SMailers/ >

> I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build,
> but the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(

There's an old NT-only port of sendmail at Microsoft. Since I don't
run NT, I don't know anything about this port.

    < ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/developr/drg/unix-to-windows/ >

-glenn

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

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   D:\dev_stuff\usr\local\share>windmail --version
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] WindMail v3.05 mailer for WIN32 (95/NT) (200
   evaluation uses left)
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Visit http://www.geocel.com/ for
   registration information
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Command line specifies no mode of supplying
   recipeients (tokens separated by ~).
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] windmail~--version~
   [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] No valid recipients.

I should have made it clear that I was looking for free software.

   itz@lbin.com wrote:
   > 
   > I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
   > impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
   > on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
   > want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
   > AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
   > are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
   > mail mode?)
   > 
   > If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
   > I'll eventually write one.

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[David Starks-Browning]

> Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
> ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to send
> messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

It wasn't clear to me why you couldn't just use smtpmail.el on emacs,
in order to get it to talk SMTP.  What was the problem with that
approach?

David

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/bin/mail anyone?

[itz]

I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
mail mode?)

If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
I'll eventually write one.

I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build, but
the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(

-- 
Ian Zimmerman
Lightbinders, Inc.
2325 3rd Street #324
San Francisco, California 94107
U.S.A.

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Stipe Tolj]

> Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
> ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to send
> messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

Leif Jackson <leif@islenet.org> has provided us a sendmail-8.9.3 patch for Cygwin.

It will be part of the upcoming Cygwin DEV CD, but I have not tested it yet. If there is
anyone to contribute in the development and wishes to test this please request the patch
from Leif or me.

Regards,
Stipe

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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Robert Bresner]

D:\dev_stuff\usr\local\share>windmail --version
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] WindMail v3.05 mailer for WIN32 (95/NT) (200
evaluation uses left)
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Visit http://www.geocel.com/ for
registration information
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Command line specifies no mode of supplying
recipeients (tokens separated by ~).
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] windmail~--version~
[06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] No valid recipients.



itz@lbin.com wrote:
> 
> I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
> impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
> on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
> want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
> AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
> are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
> mail mode?)
> 
> If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
> I'll eventually write one.
> 
> I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build, but
> the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(
> 
> --
> Ian Zimmerman
> Lightbinders, Inc.
> 2325 3rd Street #324
> San Francisco, California 94107
> U.S.A.
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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Mumit Khan]

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 itz@lbin.com wrote:

> I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
> impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
> on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
> want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
> AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
> are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
> mail mode?)
> 
> If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
> I'll eventually write one.
> 
> I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build, but
> the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(
> 

Others have suggested sendmail already, so I won't plug it. I have access
to AT&T sources, and I see a terrific little mailx implementation that
handles remote smpt servers. Is there a free implementation? This is not 
the same mailx that's usually part of Linux distributions, sorry.

If you're using Emacs, why not use the VM package. I don't use it, but
I seem to remember that it supports POP2/3 etc. There must be dozens
of other elisp packages out there.

Emacs will gladly replace me in my kitchen if I let it (which I won't!), 
so it must already support remote mailers.

One choice folks interested in a "batch" MUA may consider the new
incarnations of fetchmail, which can forward/tunnel mail through smtp
connection.

Regards,
Mumit



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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[Suhaib M. Siddiqi]

Check Sergey's web site at http://miracle.geol.msu.ru/sos/
He has sendmail for B19.  You might try coping Cygwin1.dll to Cygwinb19.dll and see if it works for you.

Suhaib


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Subject: Re: /bin/mail anyone?


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>    D:\dev_stuff\usr\local\share>windmail --version
>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] WindMail v3.05 mailer for WIN32 (95/NT) (200
>    evaluation uses left)
>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Visit http://www.geocel.com/ for
>    registration information
>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] Command line specifies no mode of supplying
>    recipeients (tokens separated by ~).
>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] windmail~--version~
>    [06/18/99|19:29:52|00305.0] No valid recipients.
> 
> I should have made it clear that I was looking for free software.
> 
>    itz@lbin.com wrote:
>    > 
>    > I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
>    > impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a message
>    > on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need this because I
>    > want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as I do on Unix, and
>    > AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP itself.  (Actually, there
>    > are the smtpmail and feedmail packages, but how to integrate them into
>    > mail mode?)
>    > 
>    > If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough that
>    > I'll eventually write one.
> 
> -- 
> Ian Zimmerman
> Lightbinders, Inc.
> 2325 3rd Street #324
> San Francisco, California 94107
> U.S.A.
> 
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> 


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Re: /bin/mail anyone?

[itz]

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   cc: cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com
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   Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

   On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 itz@lbin.com wrote:

   > I am looking for a minimalistic user mail agent that will just
   > impersonate sendmail for Emacs and the like, ie. just read a
   > message on stdin and relay it to a real SMTP listener.  I need
   > this because I want to use Emacs as my mailer in the same way as
   > I do on Unix, and AFAIK Emacs doesn't know how to speak SMTP
   > itself.  (Actually, there are the smtpmail and feedmail packages,
   > but how to integrate them into mail mode?)
   >  If nobody has a pointer/hint, I probably want it badly enough
   > that I'll eventually write one.
   >  I also toyed with the idea of getting regular sendmail to build,
   > but the sendmail distribution contains a file aux.m4 :-(
   >

   Others have suggested sendmail already, so I won't plug it. I have
   access to AT&T sources, and I see a terrific little mailx
   implementation that handles remote smpt servers. Is there a free
   implementation? This is not the same mailx that's usually part of
   Linux distributions, sorry.

   If you're using Emacs, why not use the VM package. I don't use it,
   but I seem to remember that it supports POP2/3 etc. There must be
   dozens of other elisp packages out there.

Yes, but my problem is with OUTGOING mail.  All Emacs mailers
ultimately rely on sendmail or something that behaves like it to send
messages, they don't talk SMTP themselves.

   One choice folks interested in a "batch" MUA may consider the new
   incarnations of fetchmail, which can forward/tunnel mail through
   smtp connection.

Do they accept mail on stdin?  I was an early fetchmail adopter under
Linux and that would be a surprise to me, knowing that fetchmail
consciously (almost rigidly) applies the "one job only" philosophy.

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Ian Zimmerman
Lightbinders, Inc.
2325 3rd Street #324
San Francisco, California 94107
U.S.A.

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