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* [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
@ 2008-04-08 10:45 David.Babin
  2008-04-08 11:10 ` Andrew Lunn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David.Babin @ 2008-04-08 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ecos-discuss

Hello,

Since 3 days, i try to flash my at91sam7x256-ek board without success !
Maybe something wrong in my configuration.

I use cygwin with make 3.80-1, last cvs version, last configtool 
available.

i can't build os with at91sam7xek/lwip_eth using configtool. this message 
appear :

 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/services/memalloc/common/current/src/dlmalloc.cxx: 
In
        make: Leaving directory 
`/ecos-d/eCos/eCos_arm_at91sam7x/at91_build'
           member function `cyg_uint8* 
           Cyg_Mempool_dlmalloc_Implementation::resize_alloc(cyg_uint8*, 
int, 
           cyg_int32*)':
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/services/memalloc/common/current/src/dlmalloc.cxx:1525: 
`
           memmove' undeclared (first use this function)
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/services/memalloc/common/current/src/dlmalloc.cxx:1525: 
(Each
           undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function 
it appears 
           in.)
        make[1]: *** [src/dlmalloc.o.d] Error 1
        make: *** [build] Error 2

 
When i choose at91sam7xek/minimal, build work fine, but when i try to 
compile my simple hello world (after remplaced printf with diag_printf) 
this message appear :

        $ arm-elf-gcc -g -Iat91_install/include hello.c -Lat91_install/lib 
-Ttarget.ld -nostdlib
        at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_except.o): In function 
`_GLOBAL__I.12000__Z26cyg_null_exception_handlerjij':
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/kernel/current/src/common/except.cxx:259: 
multiple definition of `cyg_hal_deliver_exception'
 
at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(hal_common_drv_api.o):/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/hal/common/current/src/drv_api.c:938: 
first defined here
 
/opt/ecos/gnutools/arm-elf/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/arm-elf/3.2.1/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: 
Warning: size of symbol `cyg_hal_deliver_exception' changed fr
        om 4 to 40 in at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_except.o)
        at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_intr.o): In function 
`_GLOBAL__D.12000__ZN13Cyg_Interrupt15disable_counterE':
 /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/kernel/current/src/intr/intr.cxx:72: 
multiple definition of `cyg_interrupt_call_pending_DSRs'
 
at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(hal_common_drv_api.o)(.text.cyg_interrupt_call_pending_DSRs+0x0): 
first defined here
        at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_intr.o): In function 
`cyg_interrupt_post_dsr':
        kernel_intr.o(.text.cyg_interrupt_post_dsr+0x0): multiple 
definition of `cyg_interrupt_post_dsr'
 
at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(hal_common_drv_api.o)(.text.cyg_interrupt_post_dsr+0x0): 
first defined here
        at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_intr.o): In function 
`interrupt_end':
        kernel_intr.o(.text.interrupt_end+0x0): multiple definition of 
`interrupt_end'
 
at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(hal_common_drv_api.o)(.text.interrupt_end+0x0): 
first defined here
 
/opt/ecos/gnutools/arm-elf/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/arm-elf/3.2.1/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: 
Warning: size of symbol `interrupt_end' changed from 80 to 128
         in at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_intr.o)
        at91_install/lib/extras.o: In function `at91_eth_init':
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/devs/eth/arm/at91/current/src/if_at91.c:607: 
undefined reference to `eth_drv_dsr'
        at91_install/lib/extras.o: In function `at91_eth_recv':
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/devs/eth/arm/at91/current/src/if_at91.c:930: 
undefined reference to `eth_drv_funs'
        at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_intr.o): In function 
`_GLOBAL__D.12000__ZN13Cyg_Interrupt15disable_counterE':
 /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/kernel/current/src/intr/intr.cxx:652: 
undefined reference to `hal_interrupt_stack_call_pending_DSRs'
        collect2: ld returned 1 exit status


Finally trying with at91sam7xek/default, building ok, but compile give new 
message :

        $ arm-elf-gcc -g -Iat91_install/include hello.c -Lat91_install/lib 
-Ttarget.ld -nostdlib
        at91_install/lib/extras.o: In function `at91_eth_init':
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/devs/eth/arm/at91/current/src/if_at91.c:607: 
undefined reference to `eth_drv_dsr'
        at91_install/lib/extras.o: In function `at91_eth_recv':
 
/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/devs/eth/arm/at91/current/src/if_at91.c:930: 
undefined reference to `eth_drv_funs'
        at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_intr.o): In function 
`_GLOBAL__D.12000__ZN13Cyg_Interrupt15disable_counterE':
 /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/kernel/current/src/intr/intr.cxx:652: 
undefined reference to `hal_interrupt_stack_call_pending_DSRs'
        collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

So is the status of this board is ready to use ?
How can i check my environment to know if something missing ?
Is there any tutorial for this board anywhere on the web ?

Thanks for help :-)

David BABIN


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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
  2008-04-08 10:45 [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek David.Babin
@ 2008-04-08 11:10 ` Andrew Lunn
  2008-04-08 15:17   ` Andrew Lunn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Lunn @ 2008-04-08 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David.Babin; +Cc: ecos-discuss

On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 12:30:38PM +0200, David.Babin@dmic.fr wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Since 3 days, i try to flash my at91sam7x256-ek board without success !
> Maybe something wrong in my configuration.
> 
> I use cygwin with make 3.80-1, last cvs version, last configtool 
> available.
> 
> i can't build os with at91sam7xek/lwip_eth using configtool. this message 
> appear :
> 
>  
> /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/services/memalloc/common/current/src/dlmalloc.cxx: 
> In
>         make: Leaving directory 
> `/ecos-d/eCos/eCos_arm_at91sam7x/at91_build'
>            member function `cyg_uint8* 
>            Cyg_Mempool_dlmalloc_Implementation::resize_alloc(cyg_uint8*, 
> int, 
>            cyg_int32*)':
>  
> /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/services/memalloc/common/current/src/dlmalloc.cxx:1525: 
> `
>            memmove' undeclared (first use this function)
>  
> /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/services/memalloc/common/current/src/dlmalloc.cxx:1525: 
> (Each
>            undeclared identifier is reported only once for each function 
> it appears 
>            in.)
>         make[1]: *** [src/dlmalloc.o.d] Error 1
>         make: *** [build] Error 2

http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss/2008-03/msg00106.html

At some point i want to improve this.

> When i choose at91sam7xek/minimal, build work fine, but when i try to 
> compile my simple hello world (after remplaced printf with diag_printf) 
> this message appear :
> 
>         $ arm-elf-gcc -g -Iat91_install/include hello.c -Lat91_install/lib 
> -Ttarget.ld -nostdlib
>         at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(kernel_except.o): In function 
> `_GLOBAL__I.12000__Z26cyg_null_exception_handlerjij':
>  
> /opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/kernel/current/src/common/except.cxx:259: 
> multiple definition of `cyg_hal_deliver_exception'
>  
> at91_install/lib/libtarget.a(hal_common_drv_api.o):/opt/ecos/ecos-cvs/ecos/packages/hal/common/current/src/drv_api.c:938: 
> first defined here

You forgot to rm -fr your tree when you changed configuration. Your
library has a mixture of both the old and new configuration.....

        Andrew

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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
  2008-04-08 11:10 ` Andrew Lunn
@ 2008-04-08 15:17   ` Andrew Lunn
  2008-04-08 18:47     ` David.Babin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Lunn @ 2008-04-08 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David.Babin, ecos-discuss

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> http://ecos.sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss/2008-03/msg00106.html
> 
> At some point i want to improve this.

And here is the patch. Please could you test it.

    Thanks
        Andrew

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? packages/templates/net
Index: packages/templates/kernel/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/ecos/ecos/packages/templates/kernel/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -r1.5 ChangeLog
--- packages/templates/kernel/ChangeLog	23 May 2002 23:08:48 -0000	1.5
+++ packages/templates/kernel/ChangeLog	8 Apr 2008 11:09:16 -0000
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+2008-04-08  Andrew Lunn  <andrew.lunn@ascom.ch>
+
+	* current.ect: Add libc_string which memalloc needs.
+
 2000-07-24  Jonathan Larmour  <jlarmour@redhat.co.uk>
 
 	* current.ect: Fix up after isoinfra and memalloc additions
Index: packages/templates/kernel/current.ect
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/ecos/ecos/packages/templates/kernel/current.ect,v
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.3 current.ect
--- packages/templates/kernel/current.ect	25 Aug 2000 17:33:50 -0000	1.3
+++ packages/templates/kernel/current.ect	8 Apr 2008 11:09:16 -0000
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@
     package     CYGPKG_KERNEL current ;
     package     CYGPKG_ERROR current ;
     package     CYGPKG_MEMALLOC current ;
+    package     CYGPKG_LIBC_STRING current ;
     package     CYGPKG_ISOINFRA current ;
 };
 
@@ -30,3 +31,27 @@
 cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRERROR_HEADER {
     inferred_value 1 <cyg/error/strerror.h>
 };
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_BSD_FUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/bsdstring.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGFUN_LIBC_STRING_BSD_FUNCS {
+    inferred_value 0
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_MEMFUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_STRFUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRTOK_R_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_LOCALE_FUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
Index: packages/templates/lwip_eth/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/ecos/ecos/packages/templates/lwip_eth/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 ChangeLog
--- packages/templates/lwip_eth/ChangeLog	4 May 2004 12:52:48 -0000	1.1
+++ packages/templates/lwip_eth/ChangeLog	8 Apr 2008 11:09:16 -0000
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+2008-04-08  Andrew Lunn  <andrew.lunn@ascom.ch>
+
+	* current.cdl: Add LIBC_STRING which MEMALLOC now needs.
+
 2004-05-04  Jani Monoses <jani@iv.ro>
 
 	* current.ect: Create new configuration for lwIP/ethernet
Index: packages/templates/lwip_eth/current.ect
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/ecos/ecos/packages/templates/lwip_eth/current.ect,v
retrieving revision 1.1
diff -u -r1.1 current.ect
--- packages/templates/lwip_eth/current.ect	4 May 2004 12:52:48 -0000	1.1
+++ packages/templates/lwip_eth/current.ect	8 Apr 2008 11:09:17 -0000
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@
     package CYGPKG_INFRA current ;
     package CYGPKG_KERNEL current ;
     package CYGPKG_MEMALLOC current ;
+    package CYGPKG_LIBC_STRING current ;
     package CYGPKG_ERROR current ;
     package CYGPKG_ISOINFRA current ;
     package CYGPKG_NET_LWIP current ;
@@ -36,3 +37,26 @@
     inferred_value 1 <cyg/error/strerror.h>
 };
 
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_BSD_FUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/bsdstring.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGFUN_LIBC_STRING_BSD_FUNCS {
+    inferred_value 0
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_MEMFUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_STRFUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRTOK_R_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_LOCALE_FUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
Index: packages/templates/lwip_ppp/ChangeLog
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/ecos/ecos/packages/templates/lwip_ppp/ChangeLog,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 ChangeLog
--- packages/templates/lwip_ppp/ChangeLog	29 Mar 2006 10:30:56 -0000	1.2
+++ packages/templates/lwip_ppp/ChangeLog	8 Apr 2008 11:09:17 -0000
@@ -1,3 +1,7 @@
+2008-04-08  Andrew Lunn  <andrew.lunn@ascom.ch>
+
+	* current.cdl: Add LIBC_STRING which MEMALLOC now needs.
+
 2006-03-22  Uwe Kindler <uwe_kindler@web.de>
 	
 	* current.ect: Fixed configuration options to match new names of 
Index: packages/templates/lwip_ppp/current.ect
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/ecos/ecos/packages/templates/lwip_ppp/current.ect,v
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.2 current.ect
--- packages/templates/lwip_ppp/current.ect	29 Mar 2006 10:30:56 -0000	1.2
+++ packages/templates/lwip_ppp/current.ect	8 Apr 2008 11:09:17 -0000
@@ -52,3 +52,28 @@
 cdl_option CYGDAT_LWIP_PPP_DEV {
     user_value "\"/dev/ser1\""
 };
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_BSD_FUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/bsdstring.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGFUN_LIBC_STRING_BSD_FUNCS {
+    inferred_value 0
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_MEMFUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_STRFUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRTOK_R_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+
+cdl_option CYGBLD_ISO_STRING_LOCALE_FUNCS_HEADER {
+    inferred_value 1 <cyg/libc/string/string.h>
+};
+


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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
  2008-04-08 15:17   ` Andrew Lunn
@ 2008-04-08 18:47     ` David.Babin
  2008-04-08 19:55       ` Andrew Lunn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: David.Babin @ 2008-04-08 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ecos-discuss

Thanks Andrew,

libc_string seem to be not needed anymore after this patch.
Compiling give some new problem because ram is not enough on board.

But i can see for first time my Hello World on serial debug !!!! it's 
little step for me and just a little step for me.... :-)

So now, i will check how to add RAM on my board :-)

David BABIN.


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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
  2008-04-08 18:47     ` David.Babin
@ 2008-04-08 19:55       ` Andrew Lunn
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Lunn @ 2008-04-08 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David.Babin; +Cc: ecos-discuss

> So now, i will check how to add RAM on my board :-)

The AT91SAM7XEK does not have an external memory interface. So you
need to live with what you have on chip.

You don't need to run all the test programs. Some do require a lot of
memory, eg tm_basic, but others will compile and run. There is a lot
of tuning you can do with stack sizes etc.

   Andrew

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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
  2008-04-10  8:47 David Babin
  2008-04-10  8:50 ` Andrew Lunn
@ 2008-04-10 13:58 ` Markus Schaber
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Markus Schaber @ 2008-04-10 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ecos-discuss

Hi, David,

"David Babin" <babindavid@gmail.com> wrote:

> > The AT91SAM7XEK does not have an external memory interface. So you
> > need to live with what you have on chip.
> 
> I suspect that the embedded 64k will not be sufficient for my usage :
> PPP - Ethernet - IP Stack (TCP/UDP/DNS) - Flash

Depending on the memory needs of your application, 64k should be
doable, at least for a basic IP stack. Do you really need TCP and
UDP? You surely won't need "advanced" tcp features like the more
complicated flow control algorithms, window scaling etc.

There are people doing a webserver in about 1k of code
(http://d116.com/ace/), on a Lego Mindstorm or even a C64
(http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2118399/commodore-back-web-server).

(Yes, I admit, they don't do eCos).



Regards,
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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
  2008-04-10  8:47 David Babin
@ 2008-04-10  8:50 ` Andrew Lunn
  2008-04-10 13:58 ` Markus Schaber
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Lunn @ 2008-04-10  8:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Babin; +Cc: ecos-discuss

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:36:16AM +0200, David Babin wrote:
> > The AT91SAM7XEK does not have an external memory interface. So you
> > need to live with what you have on chip.
> 
> I suspect that the embedded 64k will not be sufficient for my usage :
> PPP - Ethernet - IP Stack (TCP/UDP/DNS) - Flash
> 
> After some research, i've seen that adding memory can be done via SPI
> bus with SRAM.
> In this way ecos can be running with light modification on ldi files,
> seen in this post :
> http://sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss/2003-10/msg00338.html
> 
> Can you confirm me it's the correct way ?

I think this is very unlikely to work. The AT91SAM7X cannot map SPI
memory into its normal memory map.

What you need is an external memory bus. The AT91SAM7SE devices have
this, but i don't think there is an AT91SAM7XE.

I suggest you find somebody inside your company who has more
experience with low level software and hardware.

           Andrew

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* Re: [ECOS] Status of at91sam7xek
@ 2008-04-10  8:47 David Babin
  2008-04-10  8:50 ` Andrew Lunn
  2008-04-10 13:58 ` Markus Schaber
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: David Babin @ 2008-04-10  8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ecos-discuss

> The AT91SAM7XEK does not have an external memory interface. So you
> need to live with what you have on chip.

I suspect that the embedded 64k will not be sufficient for my usage :
PPP - Ethernet - IP Stack (TCP/UDP/DNS) - Flash

After some research, i've seen that adding memory can be done via SPI
bus with SRAM.
In this way ecos can be running with light modification on ldi files,
seen in this post :
http://sourceware.org/ml/ecos-discuss/2003-10/msg00338.html

Can you confirm me it's the correct way ?

David.

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