Re: [ECOS] Interrupt handling under eCOS for the arm AT91SAM7s

Re: [ECOS] Interrupt handling under eCOS for the arm AT91SAM7s

[Bob Brusa]

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Betreff: Re: [ECOS] Interrupt handling under eCOS for the arm AT91SAM7s
Datum: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 16:22:10 -0400
Von: Michael Bergandi <mbergandi@gmail.com>
An: Bob Brusa <bob.brusa@gmail.com>

Bob,

> you wrote:
> First, remove the HAL_ENABLE_INTERRUPTS macro from the ISR. That is
> not needed and may be causing problems. That call enables the system
> interrupt controller. HAL interrupts are obviously enabled if you got
> into the ISR to begin with.
>
> But if I do this, even higher priority interrupts are no longer allowed to
> come through. But I need them - otherwize I might loose characters during
> io-operations.

I think it is safe to assume that HAL (Global) interrupts were enabled
prior to your pwm interrupt happing or your pwm_isr would not run.
[yes]
Hence, HAL interrupts were enabled before the pwm interrupt happend
and the pwm ISR was called and should remain enabled unless you
explicitly disabled them. I don't see any reason or way that HAL
interrupts would/could be disabled. [I understood from the eCos-doc that 
an isr is called with i-off (global) - one has to re-enable interrupts 
explicitely to allow higher priority interrupts to come through. Do I 
get something wrong?]

cyg_interrupt_mask(vector), where vector is 10 for the pwm will only
mask the pwm interrupt. [That's what I would expect, but I get 
pwm_interrupts while the pwm_isr is still busy. And when I check the 
Mask register, I find it is masked - but the 2nd interrupt is here. I do 
not grasp what's going on.] HAL interrupts are unaffected.


> Yes, I am sure that only pwm3 and pwm0 generate interrupts. The AT91SAM7s
> ores all pwm-interrupt together and assigns them to vectored interrupt 10.

Ok, then they should all be at the same priority level, since it is a
one to one relationship between priority and vector. [Yes, same priority]

> What I need is
> 1 pwm-interrupt 10 is blocked while its isr is running

cyg_interrupt_mask() should do that for you. [would be nice - but see above]

> 2 interrupts of higher priority come through

Provided that HAL interrupts are not explicitly disabled, that should
be naturally occurring. [not according to my unterstanding of the eCos 
doc - see above]

> 3 pwm interrupts that happen while the pwm_isr is busy are defered and
>   as soon as I return from the pwm_isr, such a possibly pending new
>   pwm_interrupt should invoke pwm_isr again.

cyg_interrupt_mask() followed immediately by
cyg_interrupt_acknowledge() should provide that. If the interrupt is
masked, and another occurs, the interrupt bit will be set again since
the acknowledgement and when the cyg_interrupt_unmask() is called
another interrupt should occur.

Another option is to check the interrupt flag at the end of the first
processing run to see if another one is pending. If so, then go ahead
and service it too and save yourself the context switching overhead.

> I have the impression, that I got something wrong with the sequence of
> eCos-calls in the pwm_isr. Caling them in proper sequence would probalby
> achieve the desired result.

Certainly wouldn't hurt.

> Any further comments? Thanks and regards - Bob

I just thought of one other possibility and it goes against something
I said last time. IIRC, it IS possible for ecos to pre-empt an ISR to
run a task if that ISR is set at a lower priority than ecos naturally
runs at. eCos commonly runs at priority 8 on many platforms. This is
probably worth checking.



-- 
Mike

Hi Mike,
as you see, I addressed this mail (again) to ecos discuss instead of 
keeping it private. I feel the subject is of broader interest. Anyway, 
you should receive a copy because you have registered for the discussion....

Why broader interest? Well, the fact that a specific peripheral 
interrupt comes through while it is masked does not correspond to 
expectations. Who is to blame? eCos or the AIC of the AT91SAM7s? I do 
not know yet.

Furthermore, I just run into another problem with spuious interrupts. 
Configtool allows to build a library that ignores or not ignores 
spurious interrupts. I tried both - no change, I still have spurious 
interrupts. Not often, but one is enough to kill the system.

Then I have a few comments on your comments - see above, they are 
interspersed in your text and enclosed in square brakets.

Thanks - Bob




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Re: [ECOS] Interrupt handling under eCOS for the arm AT91SAM7s

[Bob Brusa]

Am 27.08.2012 21:30, schrieb Michael Bergandi:
> Bob,
>
>> I use an ISR that has considerable work to. Clearly, a job for a dsr, but I
>> found, that using a dsr is too time consuming, so I must do everything in
>> the isr (A screenshot of the ISR is available here:
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13412634/Screenshot%20-%2021.08.jpg)
>
> The ISR doesn't look that big to me really. To get a real idea of how
> long your ISR is taking, you can just time it. If you have the memory
> you can simply accumulate the timing in a buffer and print them out
> later to look for abnormalities.
>
>> The ISR handles 4 pwm channels - all producing interrupts at a rate of 1 ms.
>> 3 of the channels run syncronously and hence only one of them has interrupts
>> enabled. The 4th channels also triggers interrupts every ms, but is not in
>> phase with the other 3 channels. The pwm interrupts have lowest priority of
>> all interrupts in my system.
>
> Ok, there may be an issue here. Considering that they are the lowest
> priority, anything and everything else in the system can put them off
> causing you to miss an interrupt from the PWM. The timings as
> described above can give you some insight into that.
>
>> Upon entry in the pwm_isr, I clear flags, mask the interrupt of the
>> pwm-hardware on the level of the interrupt controller (AIC) and enable
>> interrupts again. This should allow higher priority interrupts to come
>> through, but no pwm interrupts while the pwm_isr is busy. This according to
>> my understanding. But it is obviously wrong, because the primitve
>> "semaphore" I implemented tells me, that a 2nd pwm interrupt interrupts the
>> first one.
>
> First, remove the HAL_ENABLE_INTERRUPTS macro from the ISR. That is
> not needed and may be causing problems. That call enables the system
> interrupt controller. HAL interrupts are obviously enabled if you got
> into the ISR to begin with.
>
> Next, you should mask the interrupt, then acknowledge it. If you use a
> DSR, then unmask at the end of the DSR.
>
> Now, be absolutely certain that all pwm channel vectors are set to the
> same priority (even the one's you THINK aren't enabled). Sounds to me
> like one of them is enabled and shouldn't be and has a higher
> priority. For example, you have:
>
> if (pwm_isr & 7)  then the ISR was triggered by pwm0, which is
> synchronous with pwm1 and pwm2
>
> Well,
>
> if ((pwm_isr & 6) != 0) then pwm1 or pwm2 is generating interrupts and
> one of them is probably a higher priority than the others.
>
>
>> One explanation I have for this is, that one of the higher priority
>> interrupts clears the interrupt mask of the pwm channels - which I would
>> consider a bug of eCos.
>
> Probably unlikely.
>
>> Onother explanation could be, that the system timer interrupts the pwm_isr
>> and runs a task and of course, many threads in my system access globals of
>> the pwm_isr, doing this within mask-pwm-interrupts/unmask-pwm-interrupts
>> brackets. But it would surprise me that ecos runs a thread while an isr is
>> still unfinished. Any comments?
>
> eCos will not run a task while an ISR or DSR is executing.
>
> Hope this helps you along.
>
Michael,
you wrote:
First, remove the HAL_ENABLE_INTERRUPTS macro from the ISR. That is
not needed and may be causing problems. That call enables the system
interrupt controller. HAL interrupts are obviously enabled if you got
into the ISR to begin with.

But if I do this, even higher priority interrupts are no longer allowed 
to come through. But I need them - otherwize I might loose characters 
during io-operations.

Yes, I am sure that only pwm3 and pwm0 generate interrupts. The 
AT91SAM7s ores all pwm-interrupt together and assigns them to vectored 
interrupt 10.

What I need is
1 pwm-interrupt 10 is blocked while its isr is running
2 interrupts of higher priority come through
3 pwm interrupts that happen while the pwm_isr is busy are defered and
   as soon as I return from the pwm_isr, such a possibly pending new
   pwm_interrupt should invoke pwm_isr again.

I have the impression, that I got something wrong with the sequence of 
eCos-calls in the pwm_isr. Caling them in proper sequence would probalby 
achieve the desired result.

Any further comments? Thanks and regards - Bob

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Re: [ECOS] Interrupt handling under eCOS for the arm AT91SAM7s

[Michael Bergandi]

Bob,

> I use an ISR that has considerable work to. Clearly, a job for a dsr, but I
> found, that using a dsr is too time consuming, so I must do everything in
> the isr (A screenshot of the ISR is available here:
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13412634/Screenshot%20-%2021.08.jpg)

The ISR doesn't look that big to me really. To get a real idea of how
long your ISR is taking, you can just time it. If you have the memory
you can simply accumulate the timing in a buffer and print them out
later to look for abnormalities.

> The ISR handles 4 pwm channels - all producing interrupts at a rate of 1 ms.
> 3 of the channels run syncronously and hence only one of them has interrupts
> enabled. The 4th channels also triggers interrupts every ms, but is not in
> phase with the other 3 channels. The pwm interrupts have lowest priority of
> all interrupts in my system.

Ok, there may be an issue here. Considering that they are the lowest
priority, anything and everything else in the system can put them off
causing you to miss an interrupt from the PWM. The timings as
described above can give you some insight into that.

> Upon entry in the pwm_isr, I clear flags, mask the interrupt of the
> pwm-hardware on the level of the interrupt controller (AIC) and enable
> interrupts again. This should allow higher priority interrupts to come
> through, but no pwm interrupts while the pwm_isr is busy. This according to
> my understanding. But it is obviously wrong, because the primitve
> "semaphore" I implemented tells me, that a 2nd pwm interrupt interrupts the
> first one.

First, remove the HAL_ENABLE_INTERRUPTS macro from the ISR. That is
not needed and may be causing problems. That call enables the system
interrupt controller. HAL interrupts are obviously enabled if you got
into the ISR to begin with.

Next, you should mask the interrupt, then acknowledge it. If you use a
DSR, then unmask at the end of the DSR.

Now, be absolutely certain that all pwm channel vectors are set to the
same priority (even the one's you THINK aren't enabled). Sounds to me
like one of them is enabled and shouldn't be and has a higher
priority. For example, you have:

if (pwm_isr & 7)  then the ISR was triggered by pwm0, which is
synchronous with pwm1 and pwm2

Well,

if ((pwm_isr & 6) != 0) then pwm1 or pwm2 is generating interrupts and
one of them is probably a higher priority than the others.


> One explanation I have for this is, that one of the higher priority
> interrupts clears the interrupt mask of the pwm channels - which I would
> consider a bug of eCos.

Probably unlikely.

> Onother explanation could be, that the system timer interrupts the pwm_isr
> and runs a task and of course, many threads in my system access globals of
> the pwm_isr, doing this within mask-pwm-interrupts/unmask-pwm-interrupts
> brackets. But it would surprise me that ecos runs a thread while an isr is
> still unfinished. Any comments?

eCos will not run a task while an ISR or DSR is executing.

Hope this helps you along.

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[ECOS] Interrupt handling under eCOS for the arm AT91SAM7s

[Bob Brusa]

Hi,
I use an ISR that has considerable work to. Clearly, a job for a dsr, 
but I found, that using a dsr is too time consuming, so I must do 
everything in the isr (A screenshot of the ISR is available here:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13412634/Screenshot%20-%2021.08.jpg)

The ISR handles 4 pwm channels - all producing interrupts at a rate of 1 
ms. 3 of the channels run syncronously and hence only one of them has 
interrupts enabled. The 4th channels also triggers interrupts every ms, 
but is not in phase with the other 3 channels. The pwm interrupts have 
lowest priority of all interrupts in my system.

Upon entry in the pwm_isr, I clear flags, mask the interrupt of the 
pwm-hardware on the level of the interrupt controller (AIC) and enable 
interrupts again. This should allow higher priority interrupts to come 
through, but no pwm interrupts while the pwm_isr is busy. This according 
to my understanding. But it is obviously wrong, because the primitve 
"semaphore" I implemented tells me, that a 2nd pwm interrupt interrupts 
the first one.

One explanation I have for this is, that one of the higher priority 
interrupts clears the interrupt mask of the pwm channels - which I would 
consider a bug of eCos.

Onother explanation could be, that the system timer interrupts the 
pwm_isr and runs a task and of course, many threads in my system access 
globals of the pwm_isr, doing this within 
mask-pwm-interrupts/unmask-pwm-interrupts brackets. But it would 
surprise me that ecos runs a thread while an isr is still unfinished. 
Any comments?
Bob

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