* Assignment
@ 2003-08-04 9:39 Andrew Lunn
2003-08-06 3:53 ` Assignment Motoya Kurotsu
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From: Andrew Lunn @ 2003-08-04 9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kurotsu; +Cc: eCos Maintainers
Hi Motoya
Thanks for sending us all this patches.
We have reached the stage that you need to get an assignment statement
signed. Please could you goto
http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/assign.html
and fill in the forms.
Thanks
Andrew
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* Re: Assignment
2003-08-04 9:39 Assignment Andrew Lunn
@ 2003-08-06 3:53 ` Motoya Kurotsu
2003-08-06 7:20 ` Assignment Andrew Lunn
2003-08-06 13:34 ` Assignment Jonathan Larmour
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From: Motoya Kurotsu @ 2003-08-06 3:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Lunn; +Cc: ecos-maintainers
>
> We have reached the stage that you need to get an assignment statement
> signed. Please could you goto
>
> http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/assign.html
>
Hi eCos maintainers;
I'm reading 'eCos Copyright Assignment Form' carefully now.
I would like to ask some questions.
1) Can I or our company renounce this agreement in the future?
Assume the case where our company will make the intellectual
policy more tight or the case where my successor doesn't accept
this agreement. You may simply say "Don't send patches any more".
But you see legal department people often require more minuteness.
2) There is the clause titled "Which files have you changed so far,..."
Does it mean that the effective range of this agreement is limited
to the files which I would list there. Or does this agreement cover
all files under the ecos tree. In other words and strictly speaking,
do I need to update this agreement everytime I want to change another
file?
3) In recent source files, not RedHat but personal name is listed as
a copyright holder. Why? Redhat still holds copyright? Otherwise
the effectiveness of this agreement is in question, isn't it?
Or is there any legal agreement between the listed persons and RedHat?
I don't intend to be a nag but legal issues make me and our management
more conservative.
Motoya Kurotsu
Allied Telesis K.K.
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* Re: Assignment
2003-08-06 3:53 ` Assignment Motoya Kurotsu
@ 2003-08-06 7:20 ` Andrew Lunn
2003-08-06 13:34 ` Assignment Jonathan Larmour
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From: Andrew Lunn @ 2003-08-06 7:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Motoya Kurotsu; +Cc: ecos-maintainers
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 12:53:27PM +0900, Motoya Kurotsu wrote:
> >
> > We have reached the stage that you need to get an assignment statement
> > signed. Please could you goto
> >
> > http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/assign.html
> >
>
> Hi eCos maintainers;
>
> I'm reading 'eCos Copyright Assignment Form' carefully now.
> I would like to ask some questions.
Jifl is the assignment expert, not me, so i will let him answer your
questions.
Andrew
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* Re: Assignment
2003-08-06 3:53 ` Assignment Motoya Kurotsu
2003-08-06 7:20 ` Assignment Andrew Lunn
@ 2003-08-06 13:34 ` Jonathan Larmour
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From: Jonathan Larmour @ 2003-08-06 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Motoya Kurotsu; +Cc: Andrew Lunn, ecos-maintainers
Motoya Kurotsu wrote:
>>We have reached the stage that you need to get an assignment statement
>>signed. Please could you goto
>>
>>http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/assign.html
>>
>
>
> Hi eCos maintainers;
>
> I'm reading 'eCos Copyright Assignment Form' carefully now.
> I would like to ask some questions.
Andrew may call me an "expert" however I'm not, most importantly because I
Am Not A Lawyer. Therefore what I say should not be read as legal advice
in any way....
> 1) Can I or our company renounce this agreement in the future?
> Assume the case where our company will make the intellectual
> policy more tight or the case where my successor doesn't accept
> this agreement. You may simply say "Don't send patches any more".
> But you see legal department people often require more minuteness.
Obviously you cannot change the status of anything already contributed.
However my understanding is that any contract can be cancelled once the
other party (here, Red Hat) is notified, and in normal contract law either
there would be some term explicitly covering cancellation in the contract,
which there isn't here; or, the other party can claim damages. *But* there
are no damages to claim!
As such, the effect is that, yes you can cancel the agreement in the
future, once you let Red Hat know.
> 2) There is the clause titled "Which files have you changed so far,..."
> Does it mean that the effective range of this agreement is limited
> to the files which I would list there. Or does this agreement cover
> all files under the ecos tree. In other words and strictly speaking,
> do I need to update this agreement everytime I want to change another
> file?
It means that we have to know what has been written so far so that
copyright is explicitly assigned for those. Then the assignment contract
will hold for new files in the future. There's a different legal status
for files already written. So no, you don't need to update the agreement.
> 3) In recent source files, not RedHat but personal name is listed as
> a copyright holder. Why? Redhat still holds copyright? Otherwise
> the effectiveness of this agreement is in question, isn't it?
> Or is there any legal agreement between the listed persons and RedHat?
>
> I don't intend to be a nag but legal issues make me and our management
> more conservative.
Sure. If it would make things easier, we are about to switch assignments
to the Free Software Foundation. Perhaps you would prefer to assign to
them? You can see a sneak peek at
http://ecos.sourceware.org/ecos/maintainers/assign-fsf.html but do not
fill it in yet as we haven't yet formally agreed on it.
Jifl
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