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* Hitting g dwfl->lookup_elts limit in report_r_debug, so not all modules show up and backtracing fails
@ 2023-04-25 19:00 Luke Diamand
  2023-05-02  7:57 ` Florian Weimer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Luke Diamand @ 2023-04-25 19:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: elfutils-devel

I've got a few cores where report_r_debug() in link_map.c fails to find all of the modules - for example I had libc.so missing. This obviously meant that elfutils could not backtrace my core.

It seems to be related to this code:

  /* There can't be more elements in the link_map list than there are
     segments.  DWFL->lookup_elts is probably twice that number, so it
     is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too many times,
     there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map clobberation.  */
  size_t iterations = 0;

  while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts)

I've changed this to just keep going until it reaches dwfl->lookup_elts*5, which seems to "fix" it, but I feel there must be a better fix!

The most recent core I saw with this had lookup_elts=36, and hit 109 iterations of the loop and then backtraced just fine.

Thanks!
Luke


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* Re: Hitting g dwfl->lookup_elts limit in report_r_debug, so not all modules show up and backtracing fails
  2023-04-25 19:00 Hitting g dwfl->lookup_elts limit in report_r_debug, so not all modules show up and backtracing fails Luke Diamand
@ 2023-05-02  7:57 ` Florian Weimer
  2023-05-08 16:35   ` Mark Wielaard
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2023-05-02  7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luke Diamand via Elfutils-devel; +Cc: Luke Diamand

* Luke Diamand via Elfutils-devel:

> I've got a few cores where report_r_debug() in link_map.c fails to
> find all of the modules - for example I had libc.so missing. This
> obviously meant that elfutils could not backtrace my core.
>
> It seems to be related to this code:
>
>   /* There can't be more elements in the link_map list than there are
>      segments.  DWFL->lookup_elts is probably twice that number, so it
>      is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too many times,
>      there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map clobberation.  */
>   size_t iterations = 0;
>
>   while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts)
>
> I've changed this to just keep going until it reaches
> dwfl->lookup_elts*5, which seems to "fix" it, but I feel there must be
> a better fix!
>
> The most recent core I saw with this had lookup_elts=36, and hit 109
> iterations of the loop and then backtraced just fine.

It's probably another fallout from -z separate-code, which tends to
create four LOAD segments.  The magic number 5 sounds about right, as
gold also has -z text-unlikely-segment, which might result in creating
that number of load segments (but I haven't tried).

Thanks,
Florian


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* Re: Hitting g dwfl->lookup_elts limit in report_r_debug, so not all modules show up and backtracing fails
  2023-05-02  7:57 ` Florian Weimer
@ 2023-05-08 16:35   ` Mark Wielaard
  2023-05-12 16:55     ` [EXTERNAL] " Luke Diamand
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mark Wielaard @ 2023-05-08 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Weimer, Luke Diamand via Elfutils-devel; +Cc: Luke Diamand

Hi Florian, Hi Luke,

On Tue, 2023-05-02 at 09:57 +0200, Florian Weimer via Elfutils-devel
wrote:
> * Luke Diamand via Elfutils-devel:
> 
> > I've got a few cores where report_r_debug() in link_map.c fails to
> > find all of the modules - for example I had libc.so missing. This
> > obviously meant that elfutils could not backtrace my core.
> > 
> > It seems to be related to this code:
> > 
> >   /* There can't be more elements in the link_map list than there are
> >      segments.  DWFL->lookup_elts is probably twice that number, so it
> >      is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too many times,
> >      there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map clobberation.  */
> >   size_t iterations = 0;
> > 
> >   while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts)
> > 
> > I've changed this to just keep going until it reaches
> > dwfl->lookup_elts*5, which seems to "fix" it, but I feel there must be
> > a better fix!
> > 
> > The most recent core I saw with this had lookup_elts=36, and hit 109
> > iterations of the loop and then backtraced just fine.
> 
> It's probably another fallout from -z separate-code, which tends to
> create four LOAD segments.  The magic number 5 sounds about right, as
> gold also has -z text-unlikely-segment, which might result in creating
> that number of load segments (but I haven't tried).

Wow, that had never occurred to me. Thanks.

Luke does the binary/libraries from which your core file was generated
contain multiple PT_LOAD segments?

We could add something like:

diff --git a/libdwfl/link_map.c b/libdwfl/link_map.c
index 06d85eb6..76f23354 100644
--- a/libdwfl/link_map.c
+++ b/libdwfl/link_map.c
@@ -331,11 +331,17 @@ report_r_debug (uint_fast8_t elfclass, uint_fast8_t elfdata,
   int result = 0;
 
   /* There can't be more elements in the link_map list than there are
-     segments.  DWFL->lookup_elts is probably twice that number, so it
-     is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too many times,
-     there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map clobberation.  */
+     segments.  A segment is created for each PT_LOAD and there can be
+     up to 5 per module (-z separate-code, tends to create four LOAD
+     segments, gold has -z text-unlikely-segment, which might result
+     in creating that number of load segments) DWFL->lookup_elts is
+     probably twice the number of modules, so that multiplied by max
+     PT_LOADs is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too
+     many times, there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map
+     clobberation.  */
+#define MAX_PT_LOAD 5
   size_t iterations = 0;
-  while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts)
+  while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts * MAX_PT_LOAD)
     {
       if (read_addrs (&memory_closure, elfclass, elfdata,
                      &buffer, &buffer_available, next, &read_vaddr,

Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks,

Mark

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* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Hitting g dwfl->lookup_elts limit in report_r_debug, so not all modules show up and backtracing fails
  2023-05-08 16:35   ` Mark Wielaard
@ 2023-05-12 16:55     ` Luke Diamand
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Luke Diamand @ 2023-05-12 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Wielaard, Florian Weimer, Luke Diamand via Elfutils-devel



On 08/05/2023 17:35, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Florian, Hi Luke,
> 
> On Tue, 2023-05-02 at 09:57 +0200, Florian Weimer via Elfutils-devel
> wrote:
>> * Luke Diamand via Elfutils-devel:
>>
>>> I've got a few cores where report_r_debug() in link_map.c fails to
>>> find all of the modules - for example I had libc.so missing. This
>>> obviously meant that elfutils could not backtrace my core.
>>>
>>> It seems to be related to this code:
>>>
>>>    /* There can't be more elements in the link_map list than there are
>>>       segments.  DWFL->lookup_elts is probably twice that number, so it
>>>       is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too many times,
>>>       there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map clobberation.  */
>>>    size_t iterations = 0;
>>>
>>>    while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts)
>>>
>>> I've changed this to just keep going until it reaches
>>> dwfl->lookup_elts*5, which seems to "fix" it, but I feel there must be
>>> a better fix!
>>>
>>> The most recent core I saw with this had lookup_elts=36, and hit 109
>>> iterations of the loop and then backtraced just fine.
>>
>> It's probably another fallout from -z separate-code, which tends to
>> create four LOAD segments.  The magic number 5 sounds about right, as
>> gold also has -z text-unlikely-segment, which might result in creating
>> that number of load segments (but I haven't tried).
> 
> Wow, that had never occurred to me. Thanks.
> 
> Luke does the binary/libraries from which your core file was generated
> contain multiple PT_LOAD segments?
> 
> We could add something like:
> 
> diff --git a/libdwfl/link_map.c b/libdwfl/link_map.c
> index 06d85eb6..76f23354 100644
> --- a/libdwfl/link_map.c
> +++ b/libdwfl/link_map.c
> @@ -331,11 +331,17 @@ report_r_debug (uint_fast8_t elfclass, uint_fast8_t elfdata,
>     int result = 0;
>   
>     /* There can't be more elements in the link_map list than there are
> -     segments.  DWFL->lookup_elts is probably twice that number, so it
> -     is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too many times,
> -     there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map clobberation.  */
> +     segments.  A segment is created for each PT_LOAD and there can be
> +     up to 5 per module (-z separate-code, tends to create four LOAD
> +     segments, gold has -z text-unlikely-segment, which might result
> +     in creating that number of load segments) DWFL->lookup_elts is
> +     probably twice the number of modules, so that multiplied by max
> +     PT_LOADs is certainly above the upper bound.  If we iterate too
> +     many times, there must be a loop in the pointers due to link_map
> +     clobberation.  */
> +#define MAX_PT_LOAD 5
>     size_t iterations = 0;
> -  while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts)
> +  while (next != 0 && ++iterations < dwfl->lookup_elts * MAX_PT_LOAD)
>       {
>         if (read_addrs (&memory_closure, elfclass, elfdata,
>                        &buffer, &buffer_available, next, &read_vaddr,
> 
> Does that sound reasonable?

Sorry - I did not see this until just after sending in my patch!

Let me try it with this change and I will re-roll it.

Luke

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