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From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@redhat.com>
To: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>
Cc: Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon@redhat.com>, frysk@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: fhpd vs RuntimeExceptions
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:32:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473DA9B0.10901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1195208888.3001.24.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org>

Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:05 -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>   
>> That unfortunatly isn't sufficient; the old code in CLI.java was 
>> differentiating between and NPE and other exceptions - dumping the stack 
>> when an NPE occured.  I'll restore this behavior; so we're at least back 
>> to a usable status quo (and from a HPD user prospective in a better 
>> position - these back-traces plain suck)
>>     
>
> OK, but I don't understand this heuristic with NullPointerException. You
> introduced a "nasty()" method (cute name) that gobbles up the Exception
> except if it is a NullPointerException or has an empty message. But that
> doesn't seem to cover other catastrophic failures like
> ClassCastException, ArrayOutOfBoundsException, ArithmeticException,
> IllegalArgumentException or NumberFormatException, etc. that might or
> might not have empty messages, but that are real core bugs if they occur
> and "bubble up" to the CLI.
>
>   
True, it gets rid of the immediate problem.  More importantly it lets us 
walk away from this bike shed and focus on more critical - a corrupt 
variable or wrong back-trace is far more serious than the exact text of 
an error message.  Just like how the dog hears in the farside cartoon 
<<Rover, blah blah blah ...>>, we've ensured that the user at least sees 
"Error: ".  As our user base expands we can refine this.

[...]
>
> That seems fine. I recommend you also just rip out the whole Message
> queuing structure and handle that in the same way with a simple
> printMessage(). Having two different mechanisms for creating user
> feedback in the CLI is probably confusing.
>
>   
Of course; however the cli code base is still in rehab from me 
refactoring N ways of implementing a command down to one.
Can you create a bug?

Andrew


  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-16 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-14 14:27 Mark Wielaard
2007-11-14 14:45 ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-14 15:27   ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-14 15:36   ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-14 17:33     ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-14 19:11       ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 17:01 ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 17:42   ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:19     ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 18:25       ` Sami Wagiaalla
2007-11-16 11:21       ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:21     ` Sami Wagiaalla
2007-11-15 20:33       ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-16 10:12       ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:46     ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-16 10:15       ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 20:41     ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-15 22:11       ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 23:09         ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-16 10:42       ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:04   ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:22     ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 19:06     ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-16 10:28       ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-16 14:32         ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2007-11-26 10:18           ` Mark Wielaard

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