From: Andrew Cagney <cagney@redhat.com>
To: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>
Cc: Phil Muldoon <pmuldoon@redhat.com>, frysk@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: fhpd vs RuntimeExceptions
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:32:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <473DA9B0.10901@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1195208888.3001.24.camel@dijkstra.wildebeest.org>
Mark Wielaard wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:05 -0500, Andrew Cagney wrote:
>
>> That unfortunatly isn't sufficient; the old code in CLI.java was
>> differentiating between and NPE and other exceptions - dumping the stack
>> when an NPE occured. I'll restore this behavior; so we're at least back
>> to a usable status quo (and from a HPD user prospective in a better
>> position - these back-traces plain suck)
>>
>
> OK, but I don't understand this heuristic with NullPointerException. You
> introduced a "nasty()" method (cute name) that gobbles up the Exception
> except if it is a NullPointerException or has an empty message. But that
> doesn't seem to cover other catastrophic failures like
> ClassCastException, ArrayOutOfBoundsException, ArithmeticException,
> IllegalArgumentException or NumberFormatException, etc. that might or
> might not have empty messages, but that are real core bugs if they occur
> and "bubble up" to the CLI.
>
>
True, it gets rid of the immediate problem. More importantly it lets us
walk away from this bike shed and focus on more critical - a corrupt
variable or wrong back-trace is far more serious than the exact text of
an error message. Just like how the dog hears in the farside cartoon
<<Rover, blah blah blah ...>>, we've ensured that the user at least sees
"Error: ". As our user base expands we can refine this.
[...]
>
> That seems fine. I recommend you also just rip out the whole Message
> queuing structure and handle that in the same way with a simple
> printMessage(). Having two different mechanisms for creating user
> feedback in the CLI is probably confusing.
>
>
Of course; however the cli code base is still in rehab from me
refactoring N ways of implementing a command down to one.
Can you create a bug?
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-16 14:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-14 14:27 Mark Wielaard
2007-11-14 14:45 ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-14 15:27 ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-14 15:36 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-14 17:33 ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-14 19:11 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 17:01 ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 17:42 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:19 ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 18:25 ` Sami Wagiaalla
2007-11-16 11:21 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:21 ` Sami Wagiaalla
2007-11-15 20:33 ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-16 10:12 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:46 ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-16 10:15 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 20:41 ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-15 22:11 ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 23:09 ` Kris Van Hees
2007-11-16 10:42 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:04 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-15 18:22 ` Phil Muldoon
2007-11-15 19:06 ` Andrew Cagney
2007-11-16 10:28 ` Mark Wielaard
2007-11-16 14:32 ` Andrew Cagney [this message]
2007-11-26 10:18 ` Mark Wielaard
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