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* [Bug other/114738] New: [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
@ 2024-04-16  9:20 jakub at gcc dot gnu.org
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https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114738

            Bug ID: 114738
           Summary: [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs.
                    release branches
           Product: gcc
           Version: 14.0
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: other
          Assignee: unassigned at gcc dot gnu.org
          Reporter: jakub at gcc dot gnu.org
  Target Milestone: ---

gcc/configure.ac uses DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL="https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/"
as the default documentation root.  That is great for the trunk, but I'm not
convinced
it is the right thing for release branches.  The online docs at that location
are updated daily from the trunk, while the release branches will be supported
for ~ 3 years, during which a lot of the URLs hardcoded into the releases or
snapshots on release branches might get removed, the documentation changed etc.
Another option would be to switch that default on release branches to
docrootbase=
case "$gcc_version" in
*.[123456].0) docrootbase="$gcc_version/";;
*.[123456].1) docrootbase="`echo $gcc_version | sed 's/1$/0$/'`/";;
esac
DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL="https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/$docrootbase"
or so.  That has the advantage that the URLs will reflect the corresponding
release's stable documentation for the 3 years (or even after it goes out of
support).
The disadvantage is that unlike the trunk online docs regenerated every day,
the release onlinedocs are only created when release is made.
So, say 14.1.0 docs will be correct, but if something in the docs or in the
options is changed in 14.1.1 between 14.1.0 and 14.2.0, the URLs on the release
branches might be stale.

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* [Bug other/114738] [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
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Jakub Jelinek <jakub at gcc dot gnu.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |dmalcolm at gcc dot gnu.org
   Target Milestone|---                         |14.0
           Priority|P3                          |P1

--- Comment #1 from Jakub Jelinek <jakub at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
Marking this as P1 because I think we need to decide what to do before the
release.

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* [Bug other/114738] [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
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Richard Biener <rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org

--- Comment #2 from Richard Biener <rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
IMO keeping https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/ is worse than making it release
specific.

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* [Bug other/114738] [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
  2024-04-16  9:20 [Bug other/114738] New: [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches jakub at gcc dot gnu.org
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  2024-04-16 10:52 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
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--- Comment #3 from Richard Biener <rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
We could also make changing it part of branching.html and have additional
directories without minor/patchlevel version, thus
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-14/ where we could autogenerate docs in more
often (but then
14.1.0 may point to stale info when gcc-14/ is updated from the branch).

Similar issues exist of course for older snapshot builds of trunk.  Not sure
if this is all well thought through given the somewhat unstable URIs we
produce.  The handling of changes.html references is much more sensible.

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* [Bug other/114738] [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
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Andrew Pinski <pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Last reconfirmed|                            |2024-04-16
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |NEW

--- Comment #4 from Andrew Pinski <pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
.

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* [Bug other/114738] [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
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https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=114738

--- Comment #5 from GCC Commits <cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
The master branch has been updated by Jakub Jelinek <jakub@gcc.gnu.org>:

https://gcc.gnu.org/g:57056146f4ffc5ea347c03e37e1e2c7cd99261d0

commit r14-10007-g57056146f4ffc5ea347c03e37e1e2c7cd99261d0
Author: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed Apr 17 16:17:22 2024 +0200

    DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches [PR114738]

    Starting with GCC 14 we have the nice URLification of the options printed
    in diagnostics, say for in
    test.c:4:23: warning: format â%dâ expects argument of type âintâ,
but argument 2 has type âlong intâ [-Wformat=]
    the -Wformat= is underlined in some terminals and hovering on it shows
    https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Warning-Options.html#index-Wformat
    link.

    This works nicely on the GCC trunk, where the online documentation is
    regenerated every day from a cron job and more importantly, people rarely
    use the trunk snapshots for too long, so it is unlikely that further
changes
    in the documentation will make too many links stale, because users will
    simply regularly update to newer snapshots.

    I think it doesn't work properly on release branches though.
    Some users only use the relased versions (i.e. MAJOR.MINOR.0) from tarballs
    but can use them for a couple of years, others use snapshots from the
    release branches, but again they could be in use for months or years and
    the above mentioned online docs which represent just the GCC trunk might
    diverge significantly.

    Now, for the relases we always publish also online docs for the release,
    which unlike the trunk online docs will not change further, under
    e.g.
   
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-14.1.0/gcc/Warning-Options.html#index-Wformat
    or
   
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-14.2.0/gcc/Warning-Options.html#index-Wformat
    etc.

    So, I think at least for the MAJOR.MINOR.0 releases we want to use
    URLs like above rather than the trunk ones and we can use the same process
    of updating *.opt.urls as well for that.

    For the snapshots from release branches, we don't have such docs.
    One option (implemented in the patch below for the URL printing side) is
    point to the MAJOR.MINOR.0 docs even for MAJOR.MINOR.1 snapshots.
    Most of the links will work fine, for options newly added on the release
    branches (rare thing but still happens) can have until the next release
    no URLs for them and get them with the next point release.
    The question is what to do about make regenerate-opt-urls for the release
    branch snapshots.  Either just document that users shouldn't
    make regenerate-opt-urls on release branches (and filter out *.opt.urls
    changes from their commits), add make regenerate-opt-urls task be RM
    responsibility before making first release candidate from a branch and
    adjust the autoregen CI to know about that.  Or add a separate goal
    which instead of relying on make html created files would download
    copy of the html files from the last release from web (kind of web
    mirroring the https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-14.1.0/ subtree locally)
    and doing regenerate-opt-urls on top of that?  But how to catch the
    point when first release candidate is made and we want to update to
    what will be the URLs once the release is made (but will be stale URLs
    for a week or so)?

    Another option would be to add to cron daily regeneration of the online
    docs for the release branches.  I don't think that is a good idea though,
    because as I wrote earlier, not all users update to the latest snapshot
    frequently, so there can be users that use gcc 13.1.1 20230525 for months
    or years, and other users which use gcc 13.1.1 20230615 for years etc.

    Another question is what is most sensible for users who want to override
    the default root and use the --with-documentation-root-url= configure
    option.  Do we expect them to grab the whole onlinedocs tree or for release
    branches at least include gcc-14.1.0/ subdirectory under the root?
    If so, the patch below deals with that.  Or should we just change the
    default documentation root url, so if user doesn't specify
    --with-documentation-root-url= and we are on a release branch, default that
    to https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-14.1.0/ or
    https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-14.2.0/ etc. and don't add any infix in
    get_option_url/make_doc_url, but when people supply their own, let them
    point to the root of the tree which contains the right docs?
    Then such changes would go into gcc/configure.ac, some case based on
    "$gcc_version", from that decide if it is a release branch or trunk.

    2024-04-17  Jakub Jelinek  <jakub@redhat.com>

            PR other/114738
            * opts.cc (get_option_url): On release branches append
            gcc-MAJOR.MINOR.0/ after DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL.
            * gcc-urlifier.cc (gcc_urlifier::make_doc_url): Likewise.

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Jakub Jelinek <jakub at gcc dot gnu.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Priority|P1                          |P2

--- Comment #6 from Jakub Jelinek <jakub at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
Keeping open for discussions on what to do on the release branches after the
release, the release itself should be fine with the committed patch.

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* [Bug other/114738] [14 Regression] Default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches
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--- Comment #7 from GCC Commits <cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
The master branch has been updated by Jakub Jelinek <jakub@gcc.gnu.org>:

https://gcc.gnu.org/g:97a54c05b8e338e673e1f7fb72c0e23abb571c60

commit r14-10109-g97a54c05b8e338e673e1f7fb72c0e23abb571c60
Author: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Date:   Wed Apr 24 18:29:12 2024 +0200

    v2: DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL vs. release branches [PR114738]

    This patch moves the documentation root URL infix for release branches
    from get_option_url/make_doc_url to configure, such that only the default
    changes and when users specify a custom documentation root URL, they don't
    have to add gcc-MAJOR.MINOR.0 subdirectories for release branches.

    Tested by checking
    ../configure --disable-bootstrap --enable-languages=c --disable-multilib
    built trunk on
    void
    foo (int x)
    {
      __builtin_printf ("%ld\n", x);
    }
    testcase and looking for the URL in there, then repeating that after
    changing gcc/BASE-VER to 14.1.0 and again after changing it to 14.1.1,
    plus normal bootstrap/regtest.

    2024-04-24  Jakub Jelinek  <jakub@redhat.com>

            PR other/114738
            * opts.cc (get_option_url): Revert 2024-04-17 changes.
            * gcc-urlifier.cc: Don't include diagnostic-core.h.
            (gcc_urlifier::make_doc_url): Revert 2024-04-17 changes.
            * configure.ac (documentation-root-url): On release branches
            append gcc-MAJOR.MINOR.0/ to the default DOCUMENTATION_ROOT_URL.
            * doc/install.texi (--with-documentation-root-url=): Document
            the change of the default.
            * configure: Regenerate.

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Jakub Jelinek <jakub at gcc dot gnu.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Assignee|unassigned at gcc dot gnu.org      |jakub at gcc dot gnu.org
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED

--- Comment #8 from Jakub Jelinek <jakub at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
Fixed.

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