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From: "amonakov at gcc dot gnu.org" <gcc-bugzilla@gcc.gnu.org>
To: gcc-bugs@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: [Bug tree-optimization/97832] AoSoA complex caxpy-like loops: AVX2+FMA -Ofast 7 times slower than -O3
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2022 19:36:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-97832-4-IMr8rSebwa@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-97832-4@http.gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/>

https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=97832

--- Comment #21 from Alexander Monakov <amonakov at gcc dot gnu.org> ---
(In reply to Michael_S from comment #19)
> > Also note that 'vfnmadd231pd 32(%rdx,%rax), %ymm3, %ymm0' would be
> > 'unlaminated' (turned to 2 uops before renaming), so selecting independent
> > IVs for the two arrays actually helps on this testcase.
> 
> Both 'vfnmadd231pd 32(%rdx,%rax), %ymm3, %ymm0' and 'vfnmadd231pd 32(%rdx),
> %ymm3, %ymm0' would be turned into 2 uops.

The difference is at which point in the pipeline. The latter goes through
renaming as one fused uop.

> Misuse of load+op is far bigger problem in this particular test case than
> sub-optimal loop overhead. Assuming execution on Intel Skylake, it turns
> loop that can potentially run at 3 clocks per iteration into loop of 4+
> clocks per iteration.

Sorry, which assembler output this refers to?

> But I consider it a separate issue. I reported similar issue in 97127, but
> here it is more serious. It looks to me that the issue is not soluble within
> existing gcc optimization framework. The only chance is if you accept my old
> and simple advice - within inner loops pretend that AVX is RISC, i.e.
> generate code as if load-op form of AVX instructions weren't existing.

In bug 97127 the best explanation we have so far is we don't optimally handle
the case where non-memory inputs of an fma are reused, so we can't combine a
load with an fma without causing an extra register copy (PR 97127 comment 16
demonstrates what I mean). I cannot imagine such trouble arising with more
common commutative operations like mul/add, especially with non-destructive VEX
encoding. If you hit such examples, I would suggest to report them also,
because their root cause might be different.

In general load-op combining should be very helpful on x86, because it reduces
the number of uops flowing through the renaming stage, which is one of the
narrowest points in the pipeline.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-26 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-14 20:44 [Bug target/97832] New: " already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2020-11-16  7:21 ` [Bug target/97832] " rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-16 11:11 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-16 20:11 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2020-11-17  9:21 ` [Bug tree-optimization/97832] " rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-17 10:18 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-18  8:53 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-18  9:15 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-18 13:23 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-18 13:39 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2020-11-19 19:55 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2020-11-20  7:10 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-06-09 12:41 ` cvs-commit at gcc dot gnu.org
2021-06-09 12:54 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-01-21  0:16 ` pinskia at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-11-24 23:22 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2022-11-25  8:16 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-11-25 13:19 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2022-11-25 20:46 ` rguenth at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-11-25 21:27 ` amonakov at gcc dot gnu.org
2022-11-26 18:27 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2022-11-26 18:36 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2022-11-26 19:36 ` amonakov at gcc dot gnu.org [this message]
2022-11-26 22:00 ` already5chosen at yahoo dot com
2022-11-28  6:29 ` crazylht at gmail dot com
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