From: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>
To: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
Cc: gcc-help <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Avoiding stack buffer clear being optimised out
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 10:44:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <178e21a7-8e34-7240-5d53-c2783451b9a9@jguk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH6eHdS62r_o8xrJHDgsQg_Mtx0kQRECGyL3UL=LHtx9iAgzYQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 30/11/2022 17:41, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 17:40, Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 16:27, Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Does GCC have a clear way to avoid memset being compiled out by optimiser?
>>>
>>> This article came up, so I combined the broken.c with GCC
>>> gcc -Wall -O2 -o broken broken.c
>>>
>>> Note, I've been using gcc for many years, I'm not looking for just tips how to compile code. I only want to discuss this optimiser issue :-)
>>>
>>> https://blog.cloudflare.com/the-linux-kernel-key-retention-service-and-why-you-should-use-it-in-your-next-application/
>>>
>>> If I modify to clear the buffer, it gets removed by the compiler
>>>
>>> The only way I could get it to not remove the memset is by adding another printf, (propagating a return code after checking memset wasn't enough)
>>
>> This is simpler and works for me, but I'm not sure if it's guaranteed
>> to always work:
>>
>> __attribute__((noinline,noipa))
>> void wipe(void* p, size_t n)
>> {
>> memset(p, 0, n);
>> }
>>
>> static int encrypt(void)
>
> Oops, I meant to change that to return void, because you don't need to
> jump through hoops checking its return value to ensure the side
> effects aren't optimized out.
>
>> {
>> uint8_t key[] = "hunter2";
>> printf("encrypting with super secret key: %s\n", key);
>> wipe(key, 8);
>> }
>>
>> There is discussion of alternatives in
>> https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1358.pdf (starting
>> on page 6).
>>
>> The memset_s function was added to C in Annex K, but most
>> implementations of the C library do not support Annex K.
Thank you Jonathan and David for your replies.
That "noipa" looks to have sorted this issue
https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Common-Function-Attributes.html
That page also suggests "noinline" attribute which seems to suggest I'd need to add asm (""); in each wrapper of memset()
I'd much rather have memset_s - Jonathan, do you think GCC could add some built-in functions for memset_s ? __builtin_memset_s() would be great.
There are quite a few similar ones that should be easy to add based on existing
(memcpy_s, memmove_s, strcpy_s, strncpy_s, strcat_s, strncat_s, strtok_s, memset_s, strerror_s, strerrorlen_s, strnlen_s).
I did speak to someone at LLVM who was considering adding built-ins to clang.
Kind regards
Jonny
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-01 10:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-30 16:26 Jonny Grant
2022-11-30 17:40 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-30 17:41 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-01 10:44 ` Jonny Grant [this message]
2022-12-01 11:31 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-01 11:34 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-01 11:55 ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-13 20:12 ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-13 20:31 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-13 22:07 ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-13 23:13 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-13 23:16 ` Jonny Grant
2023-01-24 13:52 ` Jonny Grant
2023-01-24 14:26 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-30 18:47 ` David Brown
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