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From: Jonny Grant <jg@jguk.org>
To: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
Cc: gcc-help <gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Avoiding stack buffer clear being optimised out
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 11:55:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb6fb337-211b-d3a6-f95a-0509eeb4ee49@jguk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH6eHdTE_GGFt+iOuONXNJRp5s9MoNymC-FXxpnoSbVMe+1n4g@mail.gmail.com>



On 01/12/2022 11:31, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 10:44, Jonny Grant wrote:
>> Thank you Jonathan and David for your replies.
>>
>> That "noipa" looks to have sorted this issue
>>
>> https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Common-Function-Attributes.html
>>
>> That page also suggests "noinline" attribute which seems to suggest I'd need to add asm (""); in each wrapper of memset()
> 
> I already used the noinline attribute in my example above.
> 
>> I'd much rather have memset_s - Jonathan, do you think GCC could add some built-in functions for memset_s ?     __builtin_memset_s() would be great.
> 
> No.
> 
> But C2x adds a memset_explicit function that does what you want, so
> that should arrive in glibc soonish.
> I thought it had been added, but was searching the C2x draft for
> "memset_secure" and other incorrect names.
> 
> https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2631.htm was the
> proposal adding it.

Well, at least it is in the standard. Although now we have yet another function name doing similar.
Might have been simpler to add explicit_bzero to the standard.

I can see this has been discussed for two decades
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8537

So it will be like this:
void *memset_explicit(void *s, int c, size_t n);

I imagine it won't check the pointer is non-NULL. memset_s did do that. Seems pointless to return the pointer.

Hopefully no one will use these other variations people have implemented with different parameter types.
https://github.com/gsbabil/memset_explicit/blob/master/memset_explicit.h

>>
>> There are quite a few similar ones that should be easy to add based on existing
>>  (memcpy_s, memmove_s, strcpy_s, strncpy_s, strcat_s, strncat_s, strtok_s, memset_s, strerror_s, strerrorlen_s, strnlen_s).
> 
> They're not good APIs. See
> https://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n1967.htm and
> https://sourceware.org/legacy-ml/libc-help/2018-01/msg00007.html

Yes, I know there is a lot of disapproval of Annex K. although I don't feel those trivial memset_s style are. I liked them as they check for non-NULL and return a handy error code.

Regards, Jonny

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-01 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-30 16:26 Jonny Grant
2022-11-30 17:40 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-30 17:41   ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-01 10:44     ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-01 11:31       ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-01 11:34         ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-01 11:55         ` Jonny Grant [this message]
2022-12-13 20:12   ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-13 20:31     ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-13 22:07       ` Jonny Grant
2022-12-13 23:13         ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-13 23:16           ` Jonny Grant
2023-01-24 13:52     ` Jonny Grant
2023-01-24 14:26       ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-11-30 18:47 ` David Brown

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