Why have the prior 2 "gcc Digest" emails *not* been digests?

Why have the prior 2 "gcc Digest" emails *not* been digests?

[David Presberg]

The most recent two "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" email postings (Digest ... Issue
675 and 676) came to me as concatenations of all the messages in the
digest.  I have been subscribed (only) to the digest-form of that
list.  I prefer the digest format with internal header details and
MIME "multipart/digest" designation.  Is this a temporary glitch or a
permanent change?  If the latter, where was it discussed?

-- Pres

- David L. Presberg, Software Engineer/Tools
- Conexant Systems/Maker Inc., 8 Technology Drive
- Westborough, MA 01581-1756, USA              Phone: (508) 621-0680
- David.Presberg@conexant.com   Nickname: Pres   Fax: (508) 621-0605
- *** NOTE THAT ADDRESS, PHONES, AND EMAIL CHANGED, MARCH 2000 ***

DETAILS:

Note the headers from "gcc Digest 26 May 2000 10:52:18 -0000 Issue
676" as it arrived this morning.  (I've omitted only the
"Received:"-header lines.):

  Message-ID: <959338338.25965.ezmlm@gcc.gnu.org>
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at
   05/26/2000 03:53:41 AM,
	  MIME-CD by Notes Server on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at
   05/26/2000 03:53:43 AM,
	  MIME-CD complete at 05/26/2000 03:53:44 AM,
	  Serialize by Router on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at
   05/26/2000 03:53:45 AM
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
  X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dogbert.westboro.conexant.com id GAA27812
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
  From: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org
  To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
  Subject: gcc Digest 26 May 2000 10:52:18 -0000 Issue 676
  Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:52:18 +0000

Compare the above with for instance"gcc Digest 23 May 2000 04:16:31
-0000 Issue 673" (properly a digest) which arrived Tuesday morning:

  Precedence: bulk
  List-Unsubscribe: < mailto:gcc-digest-unsubscribe-presberg=maker.com@gcc.gnu.org >
  List-Archive: < http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/ >
  List-Post: < mailto:gcc@gcc.gnu.org >
  List-Help: < http://egcs.cygnus.com/ml/ >
  Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm
  Message-ID: <959055391.2912.ezmlm@gcc.gnu.org>
  Delivered-To: responder for gcc-digest@gcc.gnu.org
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at
   05/22/2000 09:18:11 PM,
	  Serialize by Router on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.3 |March 21, 2000) at
   05/22/2000 09:18:14 PM,
	  Serialize complete at 05/22/2000 09:18:14 PM
  Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary=pcjabjnaalncgapjlogj
  From: gcc-digest-help@gcc.gnu.org
  Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org
  To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
  Subject: gcc Digest 23 May 2000 04:16:31 -0000 Issue 673
  Date: 23 May 2000 04:16:31 -0000

I also note that the latest form loses the "List-Unsubscribe:" header
that is featured on   http://gcc.gnu.org/lists.html   for the benefit
of the community.

[END]

Re: Why have the prior 2 "gcc Digest" emails *not* been digests?

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Fri, 26 May 2000, David Presberg wrote:
> I prefer the digest format with internal header details and
> MIME "multipart/digest" designation.  Is this a temporary glitch or a
> permanent change?  If the latter, where was it discussed?

I don't know that any such change was intentional and/or discussed and
will forward your feedback to those in charge of the mailing lists.

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

RE2: Re: Why have the prior 2 "gcc Digest" emails *not* been digests?

[David Presberg]

Gerald --

Hmmm.  Note the following (?) randomness:

 D   gcc-digest-help@gcc.gnu.o   24May 08:29    941/31837
     "gcc Digest 24 May 2000 08:29:36 -0000 Issue 674"

 T   gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org       25May 12:03   1469/52200
     "gcc Digest 25 May 2000 12:03:47 -0000 Issue 675"

 T   gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org       26May 10:52   1269/45209
     "gcc Digest 26 May 2000 10:52:18 -0000 Issue 676"

 T   gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org       27May 18:12   1193/40599
     "gcc Digest 27 May 2000 18:12:10 -0000 Issue 677"

 D   gcc-digest-help@gcc.gnu.o   28May 14:16   1126/35666
     "gcc Digest 28 May 2000 14:16:49 -0000 Issue 678"

 D   gcc-digest-help@gcc.gnu.o   29May 15:20   1056/36941
     "gcc Digest 29 May 2000 15:20:23 -0000 Issue 679"

 T*  gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org       30May 15:30   1450/55179
     "gcc Digest 30 May 2000 15:30:32 -0000 Issue 680"

where:

"D" == (proper digest).  "T" == "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii".

but:

"T*" == "Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
	Boundary="0__=882568EF005567FF8f9e8a93df938690918c882568EF005567FF".

which latter is still not a proper digest-form email.

And only the proper digests have the extra header-lines that explain
about getting off the list, etc.



I didn't see any mentions of this digest-and-no-digest situation in any
of the postings to "gcc" since you answered my first note on 26 May.

-- Pres

- David L. Presberg, Software Engineer/Tools
- Conexant Systems/Maker Inc., 8 Technology Drive
- Westborough, MA 01581-1756, USA              Phone: (508) 621-0680
- David.Presberg@conexant.com   Nickname: Pres   Fax: (508) 621-0605
- *** NOTE THAT ADDRESS, PHONES, AND EMAIL CHANGED, MARCH 2000 ***

Re: RE2: Re: Why have the prior 2 "gcc Digest" emails *not* beendigests?

[Gerald Pfeifer]

On Tue, 30 May 2000, David Presberg wrote:
> I didn't see any mentions of this digest-and-no-digest situation in any
> of the postings to "gcc" since you answered my first note on 26 May.

That's because I have forwarded to original mail to an internal list. One
of the root folks had a look, but we haven't been able to find the reason
behind the behavior you're experiencing. :-(

(I have forwarded this message as well, but I believe the best address
for problems like that in general is posting to the gcc@gcc.gnu.org list
directly...)

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/