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* Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
@ 2019-12-05  4:38 skah
  2019-12-05  9:41 ` Jonathan Wakely
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: skah @ 2019-12-05  4:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gcc-help

Hello


I really want a fully free operating system i build myself. I wonder how 
to "make" a minimalist, generic, and pure x64 GCC-7.5.0 with good 
support for C and C++. Next i will mostly build recent softwares, only 
from GNU, and run a free Linux kernel.

Can you give me an example usage of the "configure" script with some 
explanations if you have some times.

I try to understand everything, and it's really disgusting since i don't 
have money, I'm French, i don't live in Paris, so i don't like my 
proprietary hardware, and myself refuses so many softwares and 
licenses...

I may add that i will run my operating system from RAM, just to 
comfortably program...

GNU project still the best for too many reasons.

Thank you so very much.
Anyway keep up the good work!
And sorry if i made some writings errors.




Skah

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* Re: Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
  2019-12-05  4:38 Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself skah
@ 2019-12-05  9:41 ` Jonathan Wakely
  2019-12-05 10:46   ` Bryan Baldwin
                     ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2019-12-05  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: skah; +Cc: gcc-help

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 04:39, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
>
> I really want a fully free operating system i build myself. I wonder how
> to "make" a minimalist, generic, and pure x64 GCC-7.5.0 with good
> support for C and C++. Next i will mostly build recent softwares, only
> from GNU, and run a free Linux kernel.
>
> Can you give me an example usage of the "configure" script with some
> explanations if you have some times.

http://linuxfromscratch.org/ might be the best place to look for
details on bootstrapping an entire OS yourself.

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* Re: Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
  2019-12-05  9:41 ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2019-12-05 10:46   ` Bryan Baldwin
  2019-12-05 16:58   ` Dennis Clarke
  2019-12-05 19:03   ` Well formated " skah
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Baldwin @ 2019-12-05 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: skah; +Cc: gcc-help


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On 12/5/19 10:41 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 04:39, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> I really want a fully free operating system i build myself. I wonder how
>> to "make" a minimalist, generic, and pure x64 GCC-7.5.0 with good
>> support for C and C++. Next i will mostly build recent softwares, only
>> from GNU, and run a free Linux kernel.
>>
>> Can you give me an example usage of the "configure" script with some
>> explanations if you have some times.
> http://linuxfromscratch.org/ might be the best place to look for
> details on bootstrapping an entire OS yourself.

Another resource is Cross Linux From Scratch https://trac.clfs.org/wiki/read
Although their focus is bootstrapping the OS from different types of machine architectures,
their material is formatted similarly to Linux From Scratch, and can give you other insights
into the type of project you want to do.


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* Re: Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
  2019-12-05  9:41 ` Jonathan Wakely
  2019-12-05 10:46   ` Bryan Baldwin
@ 2019-12-05 16:58   ` Dennis Clarke
  2019-12-05 19:03   ` Well formated " skah
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Dennis Clarke @ 2019-12-05 16:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gcc-help

On 12/5/19 9:41 AM, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 04:39, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> I really want a fully free operating system i build myself. I wonder how
>> to "make" a minimalist, generic, and pure x64 GCC-7.5.0 with good
>> support for C and C++. Next i will mostly build recent softwares, only
>> from GNU, and run a free Linux kernel.
>>
>> Can you give me an example usage of the "configure" script with some
>> explanations if you have some times.
> 
> http://linuxfromscratch.org/ might be the best place to look for
> details on bootstrapping an entire OS yourself.
> 

sed 's/might be/is/'


-- 
Dennis Clarke
RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC
UNIX and Linux spoken
GreyBeard and suspenders optional

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* Well formated re: Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
  2019-12-05  9:41 ` Jonathan Wakely
  2019-12-05 10:46   ` Bryan Baldwin
  2019-12-05 16:58   ` Dennis Clarke
@ 2019-12-05 19:03   ` skah
  2019-12-05 22:39     ` Jonathan Wakely
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: skah @ 2019-12-05 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gcc-help

On 05/12/2019 11:40, Bryan Baldwin wrote:
> On 12/5/19 10:41 PM, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 04:39, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really want a fully free operating system i build myself. I wonder 
>>> how
>>> to "make" a minimalist, generic, and pure x64 GCC-7.5.0 with good
>>> support for C and C++. Next i will mostly build recent softwares, 
>>> only
>>> from GNU, and run a free Linux kernel.
>>> 
>>> Can you give me an example usage of the "configure" script with some
>>> explanations if you have some times.
>> http://linuxfromscratch.org/ might be the best place to look for
>> details on bootstrapping an entire OS yourself.
> 
> Another resource is Cross Linux From Scratch 
> https://trac.clfs.org/wiki/read
> Although their focus is bootstrapping the OS from different types of
> machine architectures,
> their material is formatted similarly to Linux From Scratch, and can
> give you other insights
> into the type of project you want to do.


On 05/12/2019 10:41, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 04:39, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> 
>> I really want a fully free operating system i build myself. I wonder 
>> how
>> to "make" a minimalist, generic, and pure x64 GCC-7.5.0 with good
>> support for C and C++. Next i will mostly build recent softwares, only
>> from GNU, and run a free Linux kernel.
>> 
>> Can you give me an example usage of the "configure" script with some
>> explanations if you have some times.
> 
> http://linuxfromscratch.org/ might be the best place to look for
> details on bootstrapping an entire OS yourself.



Thank you really much. (My message was cut, and i understand why. Maybe 
I had not used a right subject too.)


Except for GCC, i exactly know how to do. What i need is the whole set 
of variables and options to build an (almost) minimalist, (really) 
portable and pure (evidently) generic x64 GCC 7.5.0 with good support 
for C and C++ (sparsely "old" and almost recent) with the "configure" 
script and make, to run my operating system with GCC from RAM, under 
multiple x64 computers.

I think i can understand anything, for example:
i will use my USB storages without filesystem with encryption. Because 
there is a heavy hardware/software layer with today's computers.

I don't encounter any problems to understand the other GNU softwares or 
the creation of my operating system.

I try to understand everything in GCC, but i don't like proprietary 
hardware or software so i don't want to interest myself in all the 
things from GCC... I really want something simple. I mean for me, it's 
really hard to interest myself in proprietaries things. And Phew! ;D 
There really is a lot of those things.

But any globals hints are welcome.

I loved GNU since forever. I am a passionate. I just try to save me some 
time like i explained, then of course to learn, and to get some some 
latest good help.

Thank you again, and if you can't help me, i understand the answer may 
take some times anyway ! No problem.

Have a nice working

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* Re: Well formated re: Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
  2019-12-05 19:03   ` Well formated " skah
@ 2019-12-05 22:39     ` Jonathan Wakely
  2019-12-05 23:13       ` Jeff Law
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Wakely @ 2019-12-05 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: skah; +Cc: gcc-help

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 19:03, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
> Except for GCC, i exactly know how to do. What i need is the whole set
> of variables and options to build an (almost) minimalist, (really)
> portable and pure (evidently) generic x64 GCC 7.5.0 with good support
> for C and C++ (sparsely "old" and almost recent) with the "configure"
> script and make, to run my operating system with GCC from RAM, under
> multiple x64 computers.

And the Linux From Scratch projects provide that, and explain why they
use particular configure options.

Instead of asking us to repeat all that information, why don't you
look at the websites that already provide that information?

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* Re: Well formated re: Really want a simple fully free pure x64 operating system i build myself
  2019-12-05 22:39     ` Jonathan Wakely
@ 2019-12-05 23:13       ` Jeff Law
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jeff Law @ 2019-12-05 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Wakely, skah; +Cc: gcc-help

On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 22:39 +0000, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 19:03, <skah@osy6.org> wrote:
> > Except for GCC, i exactly know how to do. What i need is the whole
> > set
> > of variables and options to build an (almost) minimalist, (really)
> > portable and pure (evidently) generic x64 GCC 7.5.0 with good
> > support
> > for C and C++ (sparsely "old" and almost recent) with the
> > "configure"
> > script and make, to run my operating system with GCC from RAM,
> > under
> > multiple x64 computers.
> 
> And the Linux From Scratch projects provide that, and explain why
> they
> use particular configure options.
> 
> Instead of asking us to repeat all that information, why don't you
> look at the websites that already provide that information?
> 
+1 for the LFS approach.  I've used it to build up small chroots for
various platforms where I want to bootstrap GCC using qemu user mode
emulation.  With compression the chroots are < 100M and contain enough
bits to bootstrap and regression test the compiler (ie, small enough to
be stored on github).

Jeff

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