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From: Lulu Cheng <chenglulu@loongson.cn>
To: WANG Xuerui <i@xen0n.name>, Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>,
	"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: Youling Tang <tangyouling@loongson.cn>,
	Chenghua Xu <xuchenghua@loongson.cn>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Jinyang He <hejinyang@loongson.cn>
Subject: Re: 回复:[PATCH v5] LoongArch: add movable attribute
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2022 15:58:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <069670e7-faf3-ecd4-be4f-3b0f8debb508@loongson.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <76ddfa4a-6c7c-8c67-c6cd-4d6ae0bc87a5@xen0n.name>


在 2022/8/5 下午3:41, WANG Xuerui 写道:
> On 2022/8/5 15:19, Lulu Cheng wrote:
>>
>>
>> 在 2022/8/5 下午2:03, Xi Ruoyao 写道:
>>> On Fri, 2022-08-05 at 12:01 +0800, Lulu Cheng wrote:
>>>> 在 2022/8/5 上午11:45, Xi Ruoyao 写道:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2022-08-05 at 11:34 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via Gcc-patches wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or maybe we should just use a PC-relative addressing with 4 instructions
>>>>>> instead of GOT for -fno-PIC?
>>>>> Not possible, Glibc does not support R_LARCH_PCALA* relocations in
>>>>> ld.so.  So we still need a -mno-got (or something) option to disable GOT
>>>>> for special cases like the kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both way consumes 16 bytes (4 instructions
>>>>>> for PC-relative, 2 instructions and a 64-bit GOT entry for GOT) and PC-
>>>>>> relative may be more cache friendly.   But such a major change cannot be
>>>>>> backported for 12.2 IMO.
>>>> I'm very sorry, my understanding of the precpu variable is wrong,
>>>> I just read the code of the kernel you submitted, this precpu variable
>>>> not only has a large offset but also has an uncertain address when compiling,
>>>> so no matter whether it is addressed with pcrel Still got addressing needs
>>>> dynamic relocation when loading. It seems that accessing through the got table
>>>> is a better choice.
>>>>
>>>> The name movable is also very vivid to describe this function in the kernel,
>>>> indicating that the address of the variable can be changed at will.
>>>>
>>>> But this name is more difficult to understand in gcc, I have no opinion on other,
>>>> can this name be changed?
>>> Yes, we don't need to be compatible with old vendor compiler IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>> "force_got_access" as Xuerui suggested?
>> Compared with these names, I think addr_global is better.
>
> Actually if "model(...)" can be implemented I'd prefer a descriptive 
> word/phrase inside model(). Because it may well be the case that more 
> peculiar ways of accessing some special data will have to be supported 
> in the future, and all of them are kind of "data models" so we'd be 
> able to nicely group them with model(...).
>
> Otherwise I actually don't have a particularly strong opinion, aside 
> from "movable" which IMO should definitely not be taken.
>
>
I think the model of precpu is not very easy to describe. 
model(got)?model(global)? I also want to use attribute model and 
-mcmodel together, but this is just an initial idea, what do you think?


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-05  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-29 14:22 [PATCH] LoongArch: add addr_global attribute Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-29 15:31 ` [PATCH v2] " Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-29 17:17   ` [PATCH v3] " Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-30  3:13     ` Lulu Cheng
2022-07-30  6:03       ` Huacai Chen
2022-07-31  9:05     ` Chenghua Xu
2022-08-01 10:04       ` [PATCH v4] LoongArch: add movable attribute Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-01 10:07         ` [PATCH v5] " Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-03  1:36           ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-03  2:59             ` WANG Xuerui
2022-08-03  3:15               ` Xi Ruoyao
     [not found]             ` <-2muj1c-68saz6jhkcyw3jo1xp-1mgcvnkbqi2wjp6tue-qsso54-emxgu3-k85590-kpgox7-w67u6h3cai1l-5bi887dsgzsu-g4d7i7-wl316qxrucx4kv4on7-mnna36-iremg8-nwc5ot-9041t2-hu8nsl.1659495047941@email.android.com>
2022-08-03  3:10               ` 回复:[PATCH " Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-04  7:47                 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-05  1:05                   ` Lulu Cheng
2022-08-05  1:28                     ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-05  2:38                       ` Lulu Cheng
2022-08-05  2:51                         ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-05  3:34                           ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-05  3:45                             ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-05  4:01                               ` Lulu Cheng
2022-08-05  6:03                                 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-05  7:19                                   ` Lulu Cheng
2022-08-05  7:41                                     ` WANG Xuerui
2022-08-05  7:58                                       ` Lulu Cheng [this message]
2022-08-05  9:53                                         ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-08  4:53                                           ` Lulu Cheng
2022-08-09 11:30                                             ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-08-09 13:03                                               ` Lulu Cheng
2022-08-09 14:04                                                 ` Xi Ruoyao

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