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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "Kewen.Lin" <linkw@linux.ibm.com>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	Will Schmidt <will_schmidt@vnet.ibm.com>,
	William Seurer <seurer@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Make __float128 use the _Float128 type, PR target/107299
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:49:27 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221215184927.GW25951@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c160a07d-b9c-01d-3b4-91c77436adb8@codesourcery.com>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 06:28:19PM +0000, Joseph Myers wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2022, Kewen.Lin via Gcc-patches wrote:
> > By investigating the exposed NaN failures, I found it's due to that it wants
> > to convert _Float128 type constant to long double type constant, it goes
> > through function real_convert which clears the signalling bit in the context
> > of !HONOR_SNANS (arg).
> > 
> >   if (r->cl == rvc_nan)
> >     r->signalling = 0;
> > 
> > The test cases don't have the explicit option -fsignaling-nans, I'm inclined
> > to believe it's intentional since there is only a sNaN generation.  If so,
> > we don't want this kind of conversion which is useless and can clear signalling
> > bit unexpectedly, one shortcut is to just copy the corresponding REAL_VALUE_TYPE
> > and rebuild with the given type if the modes are the same.
> 
> I think this approach - treating floating-point conversions to a type with 
> the same mode consistently as a copy rather than a convertFormat operation 
> - is reasonable.

Certainly.  But different types with the same mode having different
precision is not so very reasonable, and will likely cause other
problems as well.

We cannot use precision to order modes or types, that is the core
problem.  A conversion from IEEE QP to double-double (or vice versa) is
neither widening nor narrowing.


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-15 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02  2:39 Patch [0/3] for PR target/107299 (GCC does not build on PowerPC when long double is IEEE 128-bit) Michael Meissner
2022-11-02  2:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] Rework 128-bit complex multiply and divide, PR target/107299 Michael Meissner
2022-11-07 15:41   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2022-11-29 17:43   ` Ping #2: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-02 17:58   ` Ping #3: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-06  9:36   ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-07  6:44     ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-07  7:55       ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-08 22:04         ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-12 10:20           ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-13  6:14             ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-13 13:51               ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-14  8:45               ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-13  6:23   ` Michael Meissner
2022-11-02  2:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] Make __float128 use the _Float128 type, " Michael Meissner
2022-11-07 15:43   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2022-11-29 17:44   ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-02 18:01   ` Ping #3: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-06 11:27   ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-14  8:46     ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-14  9:36       ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-14 10:11         ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-14 10:33           ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-15  7:54             ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-15  7:45           ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-15 18:28             ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-15 18:49               ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2022-12-15 18:56                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-15 20:26                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-15 17:59         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-16  0:09           ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-16 17:55             ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-16 21:53               ` Michael Meissner
2023-01-11 20:24   ` Michael Meissner
2022-11-02  2:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] Update float 128-bit conversions, " Michael Meissner
2022-11-07 15:44   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2022-11-29 17:46   ` Ping #3: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-02 18:04   ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-06 14:56 ` Patch [0/3] for PR target/107299 (GCC does not build on PowerPC when long double is IEEE 128-bit) Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-06 15:03   ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-13 14:11     ` Segher Boessenkool

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