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From: "Kewen.Lin" <linkw@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
	David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	Will Schmidt <will_schmidt@vnet.ibm.com>,
	William Seurer <seurer@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Make __float128 use the _Float128 type, PR target/107299
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 15:54:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62a5ce3a-74e0-d8a2-d1e9-919a7183300d@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5mmj4stv5b/KWmz@tucnak>

on 2022/12/14 18:33, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 06:11:26PM +0800, Kewen.Lin wrote:
>>> The hacks with different precisions of powerpc 128-bit floating types are
>>> very unfortunate, it is I assume because the middle-end asserted that scalar
>>> floating point types with different modes have different precision.
>>> We no longer assert that, as BFmode and HFmode (__bf16 and _Float16) have
>>> the same 16-bit precision as well and e.g. C++ FE knows to treat standard
>>> vs. extended floating point types vs. other unknown floating point types
>>> differently in finding result type of binary operations or in which type
>>> comparisons will be done.  
>>
>> It's good news, for now those three long double modes on Power have different
>> precisions, if they can have the same precision, I'd expect the ICE should be
>> gone.
> 
> I'm talking mainly about r13-3292, the asserts now check different modes
> have different precision unless it is half vs. brain or vice versa, but
> could be changed further, but if the precision is the same, the FEs
> and the middle-end needs to know how to deal with those.
> For C++23, say when __ibm128 is the same as long double and _Float128 is
> supported, the 2 types are unordered (neither is a subset or superset of
> the other because there are many _Float128 values one can't represent
> in double double (whether anything with exponent larger than what double
> can represent or most of the more precise values), but because of the
> variable precision there are double double values that can't be represented
> in _Float128 either) and so we can error on comparisons of those or on
> arithmetics with such arguments (unless explicitly converted first).
> But for backwards compatibility we can't do that for __float128 vs. __ibm128
> and so need to backwards compatibly decide what wins.  And for the
> middle-end say even for mode conversions decide what is widening and what is
> narrowing even when they are unordered.

Thanks for the pointer!  I don't have good understanding on the backwards
compatibility on those conversions, guessing Mike, Segher and David would have
more insights.

BR,
Kewen

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-15  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02  2:39 Patch [0/3] for PR target/107299 (GCC does not build on PowerPC when long double is IEEE 128-bit) Michael Meissner
2022-11-02  2:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] Rework 128-bit complex multiply and divide, PR target/107299 Michael Meissner
2022-11-07 15:41   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2022-11-29 17:43   ` Ping #2: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-02 17:58   ` Ping #3: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-06  9:36   ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-07  6:44     ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-07  7:55       ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-08 22:04         ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-12 10:20           ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-13  6:14             ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-13 13:51               ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-14  8:45               ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-13  6:23   ` Michael Meissner
2022-11-02  2:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] Make __float128 use the _Float128 type, " Michael Meissner
2022-11-07 15:43   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2022-11-29 17:44   ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-02 18:01   ` Ping #3: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-06 11:27   ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-14  8:46     ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-14  9:36       ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-14 10:11         ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-14 10:33           ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-15  7:54             ` Kewen.Lin [this message]
2022-12-15  7:45           ` Kewen.Lin
2022-12-15 18:28             ` Joseph Myers
2022-12-15 18:49               ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-15 18:56                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-15 20:26                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-15 17:59         ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-16  0:09           ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-16 17:55             ` Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-16 21:53               ` Michael Meissner
2023-01-11 20:24   ` Michael Meissner
2022-11-02  2:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] Update float 128-bit conversions, " Michael Meissner
2022-11-07 15:44   ` Ping: " Michael Meissner
2022-11-29 17:46   ` Ping #3: " Michael Meissner
2022-12-02 18:04   ` Michael Meissner
2022-12-06 14:56 ` Patch [0/3] for PR target/107299 (GCC does not build on PowerPC when long double is IEEE 128-bit) Segher Boessenkool
2022-12-06 15:03   ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-13 14:11     ` Segher Boessenkool

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