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From: Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
Cc: "gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"siddhesh@gotplt.org" <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	"keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Handle component_ref to a structre/union field including flexible array member [PR101832]
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:06:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2AB95191-B5D9-41AC-916A-C57ED20DF55E@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e9e8fe5d-2c12-f3ad-3d1-c02d19b241af@codesourcery.com>



> On Feb 7, 2023, at 6:37 PM, Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2023, Qing Zhao via Gcc-patches wrote:
> 
>> Then, this routine (flexible_array_type_p) is mainly for diagnostic purpose.
>> It cannot be used to determine whether the structure/union type recursively
>> include a flexible array member at the end.
>> 
>> Is my understanding correct?
> 
> My comments were about basic principles of what gets diagnosed, and the 
> need for different predicates in different contexts; I wasn't trying to 
> assert anything about how that maps onto what functions should be used in 
> what contexts.
Okay. 

But I noticed that “flexible_array_type_p” later was moved from FE to
 middle-end and put into tree.cc, tree.h as a general utility routine, and to 

/* Determine whether TYPE is a structure with a flexible array member,
   or a union containing such a structure (possibly recursively).  */

However, since this routine does not cover the cases when the structure 
with flexible array member was recursively embedded into structures, (which we 
agreed that it should be considered as a flexible sized type). 

Therefore, I feel that It might not be proper to include this routine in middle end 
(and actually no other places In middle end use this routine so far).

That’s the reason I asked the previous question. 

It might be better to move the routine “flexible_array_type_p” back from middle-end to
FE for the diagnosis purpose only. 


> 
>>>> 2. Only C99 standard flexible array member be included, [0] and [1] are 
>>>> not included, for example:
>>> 
>>> Obviously we can't diagnose use of structures with [1] trailing members, 
>>> because it's perfectly valid to embed those structures at any position 
>>> inside other structures.  And the same is the case for the [0] extension 
>>> when it's used to mean "empty array" rather than "flexible array".
>> 
>> With the -fstrict-flex-arrays available, we should be able to diagnose
>> the flexible array member per gnu extension (i.e [0] or [1]) the same as []. 
> 
> There are different sorts of diagnostic that might be involved.
> 
> * Simply having [0] or [1] at the end of a structure embedded in another 
> structure isn't appropriate to diagnose, because [0] and [1] have 
> perfectly good meanings in such a context that aren't trying to be 
> flexible array members at all.  [0] might be an empty type (possibly one 
> that wouldn't be empty when built with a different configuration).  [1] 
> might be the use of arrays in C to produce a passed-by-reference type.


So, you mean, by default, Only having [] at the end of a structure embedded
 in another structure is considered to be flexible sized type?

i.e.
struct flex { int n; int data[ ]; };
struct out_flex_end { int m; struct flex0 flex_data; }; 
struct outer_flex_end{ int p; struct out_flex_end0 out_flex_data; }; 

In the above, all “flex”, “out_flex_end” and “outer_flex_end” are flexible sized type.

But:

struct flex0 { int n; int data[0]; };
struct out_flex_end0 { int m; struct flex0 flex_data; }; 
struct outer_flex_end0 { int p; struct out_flex_end0 out_flex_data; }; 

In the above, only “flex0” is flexible sized type by default. 
But “out_flex_end0” and “out_flex_end0” are Not considered as flexible sized type by default? 

> 
> * Trying to use such an embedded [0] or [1] array as if it were a flexible 
> array member - i.e. accessing any member of the [0] array, or any member 
> other than the [0] member of the [1] array - *is* a sign of the 
> problematic use as a flexible array member, that might be appropriate to 
> diagnose.

Yes, this was diagnosed with -Wstrict-flex-arrays + -fstrict-flex-arrays=n.

thanks.

Qing

>  (Actually I'd guess the array index tends to be non-constant in 
> accesses, and it would be odd to use a non-constant index when you mean 
> that constant always to be 0, which it would need to be in the 
> non-flexible case.)
> 
> -- 
> Joseph S. Myers
> joseph@codesourcery.com


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-08 15:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-31 14:11 [PATCH 0/2]PR101832: Handle component_ref to a structure/union field including flexible array member for builtin_object_size Qing Zhao
2023-01-31 14:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] Handle component_ref to a structre/union field including flexible array member [PR101832] Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 11:41   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-01 14:19     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02  8:07       ` Richard Biener
2023-02-02 13:52         ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02 13:54           ` Richard Biener
2023-02-02 14:38             ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-03  7:49               ` Richard Biener
2023-02-03 13:17                 ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-06  9:31                   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-06 14:38                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-06 23:14                       ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-07 14:54                         ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-07 19:17                           ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-07 19:57                             ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-07 23:37                               ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-08 15:06                                 ` Qing Zhao [this message]
2023-02-08 19:09                                   ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-08 19:20                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-08 20:51                                       ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-08 22:53                                       ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-08 23:18                                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-09 14:40                                       ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-09 16:46                                         ` Kees Cook
2023-02-10 15:25                                           ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-09 10:35                                   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-09 13:44                                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-07 15:28                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-07 15:38                           ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 16:48   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-01 18:20     ` Qing Zhao
2023-01-31 14:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation Update Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 16:55   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-01 18:24     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 18:57       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-01 19:19         ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02  8:33         ` Richard Biener
2023-02-02 14:31           ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02 17:05             ` Kees Cook
2023-02-03 15:56               ` Jeff Law
2023-02-03  4:25           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-03 14:52             ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-03 20:55             ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-03 22:38               ` Qing Zhao
2023-05-25  1:22 [V8][PATCH 0/2]Accept and Handle the case when a structure including a FAM nested in another structure Qing Zhao
2023-05-25  1:22 ` [PATCH 1/2] Handle component_ref to a structre/union field including flexible array member [PR101832] Qing Zhao

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