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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>
Cc: Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com>,
	gcc Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 "keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	 "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Documentation Update.
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2023 08:33:19 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2302020824440.6551@jbgna.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b214fe7e-583a-f9ab-7e46-b03c440a4543@gotplt.org>

On Wed, 1 Feb 2023, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:

> On 2023-02-01 13:24, Qing Zhao wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> On Feb 1, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2023-01-31 09:11, Qing Zhao wrote:
> >>> Update documentation to clarify a GCC extension on structure with
> >>> flexible array member being nested in another structure.
> >>> gcc/ChangeLog:
> >>>  * doc/extend.texi: Document GCC extension on a structure containing
> >>>  a flexible array member to be a member of another structure.
> >>
> >> Should this resolve pr#77650 since the proposed action there appears to be
> >> to document these semantics?
> > 
> > My understanding of pr77650 is specifically for documentation on the
> > following case:
> > 
> > The structure with a flexible array member is the middle field of another
> > structure.
> > 
> > Which I added in the documentation as the 2nd situation.
> > However, I am still not very comfortable on my current clarification on this
> > situation: how should we document on
> > the expected gcc behavior to handle such situation?
> 
> I reckon wording that dissuades programmers from using this might be
> appropriate, i.e. don't rely on this and if you already have such nested flex
> arrays, change code to remove them.
> 
> >>> +In the above, @code{flex_data.data[]} is allowed to be extended flexibly
> >>> to
> >>> +the padding. E.g, up to 4 elements.
> 
> """
> ... Relying on space in struct padding is bad programming practice and any
> code relying on this behaviour should be modified to ensure that flexible
> array members only end up at the ends of arrays.  The `-pedantic` flag should
> help identify such uses.
> """
> 
> Although -pedantic will also flag on flex arrays nested in structs even if
> they're at the end of the parent struct, so my suggestion on the warning is
> not really perfect.

Wow, so I checked and we indeed accept

struct X { int n; int data[]; };
struct Y { struct X x; int end; };

and -pedantic says

t.c:2:21: warning: invalid use of structure with flexible array member 
[-Wpedantic]
    2 | struct Y { struct X x; int end; };
      |           

and clang reports

t.c:2:21: warning: field 'x' with variable sized type 'struct X' not at 
the end of a struct or class is a GNU extension 
[-Wgnu-variable-sized-type-not-at-end]
struct Y { struct X x; int end; };
                    ^

looking at PR77650 what seems missing there is the semantics of this
extension as expected/required by the glibc use.  comment#5 seems
to suggest that for my example above its expected that
Y.x.data[0] aliases Y.end?!  There must be a better way to write
the glibc code and IMHO it would be best to deprecate this extension.
Definitely the middle-end wouldn't consider this aliasing for
my example - maybe it "works" when wrapped inside a union but
then for sure only when the union is visible in all accesses ...

typedef union
{
  struct __gconv_info __cd;
  struct
  {
    struct __gconv_info __cd;
    struct __gconv_step_data __data;
  } __combined;
} _G_iconv_t;

could be written as

typedef union
{
  struct __gconv_info __cd;
  char __dummy[sizeof(struct __gconv_info) + sizeof(struct 
__gconv_step_data)];
} _G_iconv_t;

in case the intent is to provide a complete type with space for
a single __gconv_step_data.

Richard.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-02  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-31 14:11 [PATCH 0/2]PR101832: Handle component_ref to a structure/union field including flexible array member for builtin_object_size Qing Zhao
2023-01-31 14:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] Handle component_ref to a structre/union field including flexible array member [PR101832] Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 11:41   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-01 14:19     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02  8:07       ` Richard Biener
2023-02-02 13:52         ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02 13:54           ` Richard Biener
2023-02-02 14:38             ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-03  7:49               ` Richard Biener
2023-02-03 13:17                 ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-06  9:31                   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-06 14:38                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-06 23:14                       ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-07 14:54                         ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-07 19:17                           ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-07 19:57                             ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-07 23:37                               ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-08 15:06                                 ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-08 19:09                                   ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-08 19:20                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-08 20:51                                       ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-08 22:53                                       ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-08 23:18                                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-09 14:40                                       ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-09 16:46                                         ` Kees Cook
2023-02-10 15:25                                           ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-09 10:35                                   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-09 13:44                                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-07 15:28                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-07 15:38                           ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 16:48   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-01 18:20     ` Qing Zhao
2023-01-31 14:11 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation Update Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 16:55   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-01 18:24     ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-01 18:57       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-01 19:19         ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02  8:33         ` Richard Biener [this message]
2023-02-02 14:31           ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-02 17:05             ` Kees Cook
2023-02-03 15:56               ` Jeff Law
2023-02-03  4:25           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-03 14:52             ` Qing Zhao
2023-02-03 20:55             ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-03 22:38               ` Qing Zhao

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