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From: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
To: waffl3x <waffl3x@protonmail.com>
Cc: "gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/1] c++: Initial support for P0847R7 (Deducing This) [PR102609]
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2023 10:02:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <575c0bbe-a3d6-4a54-b299-edff64df84b1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fvZJaqpAyNIK-19SId5TL_q-XrXUl0f_Lo4jeJ7SQYlBoVsrFU3d11yTt4i6UwdBwHQVkPiSTOBvPhWnyl1XE85jzm784wHGw2fMvMrkn7k=@protonmail.com>

On 12/1/23 20:31, waffl3x wrote:
> On Friday, December 1st, 2023 at 9:52 AM, Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 12/1/23 01:02, waffl3x wrote:
>>
>>> I ran into another issue while devising tests for redeclarations of
>>> xobj member functions as static member functions and vice versa. I am
>>> pretty sure by the literal wording of the standard, this is well formed.
>>>
>>> template<typename T>
>>> concept Constrain = true;
>>>
>>> struct S {
>>> void f(this auto, Constrain auto) {};
>>> static void f(Constrain auto) {};
>>>
>>> void g(this auto const&, Constrain auto) {};
>>> static void g(Constrain auto) {};
>>>
>>> void h(this auto&&, Constrain auto) {};
>>> static void h(Constrain auto) {};
>>> };
>>>
>>> And also,
>>>
>>> struct S{
>>> void f(this auto) {};
>>> static void f() {};
>>>
>>> void g(this auto const&) {};
>>> static void g() {};
>>>
>>> void h(this auto&&) {};
>>> static void h() {};
>>> };
>>>
>>> I wrote these tests expecting them to be ill-formed, and found what I
>>> thought was a bug when they were not diagnosed as redecelarations.
>>> However, given how the code for resolving overloads and determining
>>> redeclarations looks, I believe this is actually well formed on a
>>> technicality. I can't find the passages in the standard that specify
>>> this so I can't be sure.
>>
>>
>> I think the relevant section is
>> https://eel.is/c++draft/basic.scope.scope
>>
>>> Anyway, the template parameter list differs because of the deduced
>>> object parameter. Now here is the question, you are required to ignore
>>> the object parameter when determining if these are redeclarations or
>>> not, but what about the template parameters associated with the object
>>> parameter? Am I just missing the passage that specifies this or is this
>>> an actual defect in the standard?
>>
>>
>> I think that since they differ in template parameters, they don't
>> correspond under https://eel.is/c++draft/basic.scope.scope#4.5 so they
>> can be overloaded.
>>
>> This is specified in terms of the template-head grammar non-terminal,
>> but elsewhere we say that abbreviated templates are equivalent to
>> writing out the template parameters explicitly.
>>
>>> The annoying thing is, even if this was brought up, I think the only
>>> solution is to ratify these examples as well formed.
>>
>> Yes.
> 
> I can't get over that I feel like this goes against the spirit of the
> specification. Just because an object argument is deduced should not
> suddenly mean we take it into account. Too bad there's no good solution.

Yep.  Note that it's normal for a template to overload with a non-template:

struct A
{
   void f();
   template <class T> void f();  // OK
};

> I especially don't like that that the following case is ambiguous. I
> understand why, but I don't like it.
> 
> template<typename T>
> concept Constrain = true;
> 
> struct S {
>    int f(this auto, Constrain auto) {};
>    static f(auto) {};
> };
> main() {
>    S{}.f(0);
> }
>
> I would like to see this changed honestly. When an ambiguity is
> encountered, the more constrained function should be taken into account
> even if they normally can't be considered. Is there some pitfall with
> this line of thinking that kept it out of the standard? Is it just a
> case of "too hard to specify" or is there some reason it's impossible
> to do in all but the simplest of cases?

I would actually expect the static function to be chosen as more 
specialized before we get to considering constraints, just as with

void f(auto, Constrain auto) = delete;
void f(const S&, auto) {}
int main() { f(S{},0); } // OK

Though it looks like [temp.func.order] needs to be adjusted for explicit 
object parameters.  And more_specialized_fn in gcc still has an outdated 
handling of object parameters that just skips them, from before the 
clearer specification in C++11 and later; this is PR53499.  No need to 
address that preexisting bug in this patch.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-02 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-31  6:02 [PATCH 1/2] " waffl3x
2023-08-31  8:33 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-09-02  8:43   ` waffl3x
2023-09-11 13:49     ` [PATCH v2 " waffl3x
2023-09-19 20:14       ` Jason Merrill
2023-09-20  0:30         ` waffl3x
2023-09-20 21:19           ` Jason Merrill
2023-09-21 11:28             ` waffl3x
2023-09-22 11:30               ` Jason Merrill
2023-09-26  1:56                 ` [PATCH v3 " waffl3x
2023-09-27 22:43                   ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2023-09-27 23:35                     ` Waffl3x
2023-10-17 20:53                   ` Jason Merrill
2023-10-17 21:11                   ` Jason Merrill
2023-10-18 11:46                     ` waffl3x
2023-10-18 14:17                       ` Jason Merrill
2023-10-18 17:28                         ` waffl3x
2023-10-18 17:45                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-10-18 18:12                           ` Jason Merrill
2023-10-19 21:05                             ` waffl3x
2023-10-19 21:11                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-10-19 21:31                                 ` waffl3x
2023-10-19 21:53                                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-10-19 22:18                               ` Jason Merrill
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2023-10-19 22:51                                 ` waffl3x
2023-10-19 23:35                                   ` waffl3x
2023-10-20  2:39                                     ` Jason Merrill
2023-10-20  4:34                                       ` waffl3x
2023-10-20 16:01                                         ` Jason Merrill
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2023-10-28  4:07                                           ` waffl3x
2023-10-28 23:21                                             ` waffl3x
2023-11-01 23:15                                               ` waffl3x
2023-11-02  7:01                                                 ` waffl3x
2023-11-02  7:01                                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-11-03  3:04                                             ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-03  4:44                                               ` waffl3x
2023-11-03 18:05                                                 ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-04  6:40                                                   ` waffl3x
2023-11-09 18:44                                                     ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-10  4:24                                                       ` waffl3x
2023-11-10 23:12                                                         ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-11 10:43                                                           ` waffl3x
2023-11-11 11:24                                                             ` waffl3x
2023-11-14  3:48                                                             ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-14  4:36                                                               ` waffl3x
2023-11-18  6:43                                                                 ` waffl3x
2023-11-19  6:22                                                                   ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-19 13:39                                                                     ` waffl3x
2023-11-19 16:31                                                                       ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-19 18:36                                                                         ` waffl3x
2023-11-19 20:34                                                                           ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-19 21:44                                                                             ` waffl3x
2023-11-20 14:35                                                                               ` Jason Merrill
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2023-11-21 10:02                                                                                 ` waffl3x
2023-11-21 13:04                                                                                   ` [PATCH v5 1/1] " waffl3x
2023-11-22  3:22                                                                                     ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-22 20:46                                                                                       ` waffl3x
2023-11-22 21:38                                                                                         ` Jason Merrill
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2023-11-22 21:56                                                                                           ` waffl3x
2023-11-22 22:44                                                                                           ` waffl3x
2023-11-24  6:49                                                                                             ` waffl3x
2023-11-24 23:26                                                                                               ` waffl3x
2023-11-25  1:14                                                                                                 ` waffl3x
2023-11-26 21:30                                                                                                   ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-26 23:10                                                                                                     ` waffl3x
2023-11-27  1:16                                                                                                       ` Jason Merrill
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2023-11-27  1:30                                                                                                         ` waffl3x
2023-11-27  1:44                                                                                                         ` waffl3x
2023-11-27  2:40                                                                                                           ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-27  5:35                                                                                                           ` [PATCH v6 " waffl3x
2023-11-28  3:31                                                                                                             ` waffl3x
2023-11-28 10:00                                                                                                               ` waffl3x
2023-11-30  5:00                                                                                                             ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-30  6:36                                                                                                               ` waffl3x
2023-11-30 14:55                                                                                                                 ` Jason Merrill
2023-12-01  6:02                                                                                                                   ` waffl3x
2023-12-01 16:52                                                                                                                     ` Jason Merrill
2023-12-02  1:31                                                                                                                       ` waffl3x
2023-12-02 15:02                                                                                                                         ` Jason Merrill [this message]
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2023-12-05  4:35                                                                                                                           ` waffl3x
2023-12-05  4:39                                                                                                                             ` waffl3x
2023-12-05  5:54                                                                                                                               ` waffl3x
2023-12-06  7:33                                                                                                                                 ` [PATCH v7 " waffl3x
2023-12-06  8:48                                                                                                                                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-12-06  9:31                                                                                                                                     ` waffl3x
2023-12-06 11:08                                                                                                                                   ` waffl3x
2023-12-08 19:25                                                                                                                                   ` Jason Merrill
2023-12-10 15:22                                                                                                                                     ` waffl3x
2023-12-10 18:59                                                                                                                                       ` Jason Merrill
2023-12-22  9:01                                                                                                                                         ` waffl3x
2023-12-22 17:26                                                                                                                                           ` Jason Merrill
2023-12-23  7:10                                                                                                                                             ` waffl3x
2023-12-26 16:37                                                                                                                                               ` Jason Merrill
2024-01-01 15:17                                                                                                                                                 ` waffl3x
2024-01-01 15:34                                                                                                                                                   ` waffl3x
2024-01-01 17:12                                                                                                                                                     ` waffl3x
2024-01-06 12:37                                                                                                                                                       ` waffl3x
2023-11-25 17:32                                                                                               ` [PATCH v5 " Jason Merrill
2023-11-25 22:59                                                                                                 ` waffl3x
2023-09-19 20:24   ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jason Merrill
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