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From: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>
To: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	bug-gettext@gnu.org
Subject: Re: building GNU gettext on AIX
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 19:50:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86msvdedlt.fsf@aarsen.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6664645.lMtyQzBqa6@nimes>

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Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org> writes:

> David Edelsohn wrote:
>> > It is great that gettext and libintl can be built thread-safe, but GCC
>> > (cc1, gcov, etc.) are not pthreads applications and are not built with
>> > pthreads.  Because libintl defaults to pthreads enabled, NLS cannot
>> > function in GCC on AIX by default.  
>> ...
>> The latest issue is that a few files in gettext ignore --disable-pthreads
>> and creates a dependency on pthread_mutex.
>
> GNU gettext does not have an option '--disable-pthreads'. Instead, it has
> options
>
>   --enable-threads={isoc|posix|isoc+posix|windows}
>                           specify multithreading API
>
>   --disable-threads       build without multithread safety
>
>> The issue appears to be that intl/gnulib-lib/{mbrtowc.c,setlocale_null.c}
>> include pthread.h based on HAVE_PTHREAD_API, which is defined as 1 in
>> intl/config.h build directory
>
> Yup, I confirm that the dependency comes from these two object files.
>
> Will the next GCC release support AIX 7.1.x ? Recall that AIX 7.1 went
> end-of-life on 2023-04-30 [1]
>
>   * If no, then the simple solution would be to pass the configure option
>       --enable-threads=isoc
>     This should not introduce a link dependency, because the mtx_lock,
>     mtx_unlock, and mtx_init functions are in libc in AIX ≥ 7.2. Currently it
>     does not work (it still uses pthread_mutex_lock and pthread_mutex_unlock
>     despite --enable-threads=isoc). But I could make this work and release
>     a gettext 0.22.4 with the fix.
>
>   * If yes, then the question is how distributors will in general package
>     libintl on AIX. If it's installed in public locations (such as in
>     /opt/freeware/{lib,lib64}/libintl.a on gcc119.fsffrance.org), then we
>     have a problem: It may cause undefined behaviour in multithreaded
>     packages that use GNU libintl.
>     If you can guarantee that it will be installed in GCC-private directories
>     (and outside the path where GCC looks for libraries to link with!) then
>     it would be OK to install such a non-thread-safe libintl.
>     But if you cannot guarantee that, we are in trouble.

The in-tree configuration already passes --disable-shared, so I imagine
passing --disable-threads would be OK too, for the case that it is
utilized.  (relevant for the latter case: GCC-private build of libintl)

>     How do other library vendors handle this issue on AIX? Do they ship two
>     libraries, one MT-safe and one not? Under different names? Or in different
>     library search paths?
>
> Bruno
>
> [1] https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/aix-support-lifecycle-information


-- 
Arsen Arsenović

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-16 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14 20:37 [PATCH v3 0/2] Replace intl/ with out-of-tree GNU gettext David Edelsohn
2023-11-14 23:06 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-15  1:49   ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-15 12:29     ` building GNU gettext on AIX Bruno Haible
2023-11-15 19:26       ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-15 21:22         ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-15 21:31           ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-15 22:39             ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 16:00               ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 16:35                 ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:01                   ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:17                     ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:52                       ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 22:18                         ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 22:46                           ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 23:10                             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17  8:33                               ` Richard Biener
2023-11-17  8:49                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17 12:24                                 ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-17 13:06                                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 23:38                             ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-17  0:07                               ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-17  0:15                                 ` David Edelsohn
     [not found]                 ` <84B39BF1-33D5-488E-8CF5-D08B09417568@gmail.com>
2023-11-16 17:44                   ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:47                     ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 18:50                       ` Arsen Arsenović [this message]
2023-11-16 18:59                         ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 19:14                           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-19 19:49                       ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-15 14:14     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Replace intl/ with out-of-tree GNU gettext Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-15 15:51       ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-11-16 18:48         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-15 17:19       ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:33         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 21:11           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 21:40             ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 22:19               ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 22:30                 ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 22:32                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 23:59                     ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-17  8:34                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17  8:50                         ` Richard Biener
2023-11-17  8:56                           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17 14:41                         ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-17 15:16                           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17 16:07                             ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-18 18:10                               ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-19 21:55                               ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-19 23:00                                 ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-19 23:06                                   ` Andrew Pinski
2023-11-20  1:17                                 ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-20 21:18                                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-20 21:38                                     ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-21  0:44                                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-20 23:00                                     ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-21  0:45                                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-21 13:13                                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-21 16:28                                           ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-21 20:58                                           ` Eric Gallager
2023-11-15 19:58       ` David Edelsohn

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