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From: David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>
To: "Arsen Arsenović" <arsen@aarsen.me>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] Replace intl/ with out-of-tree GNU gettext
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2023 09:41:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGWvnynzt1RvY6CT-F2REhKcAfNDPTX11gOWaWVFJ2yciqMmJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86o7fs6a3j.fsf@aarsen.me>

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On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 3:46 AM Arsen Arsenović <arsen@aarsen.me> wrote:

>
> David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 5:52 PM Arsen Arsenović <arsen@aarsen.me> wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >> Sure, but my patch does insert --disable-shared:
> >>
> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> >> host_modules= { module= gettext; bootstrap=true; no_install=true;
> >>                 module_srcdir= "gettext/gettext-runtime";
> >>                 // We always build gettext with pic, because some
> packages
> >> (e.g. gdbserver)
> >>                 // need it in some configuratons, which is determined
> via
> >> nontrivial tests.
> >>                 // Always enabling pic seems to make sense for something
> >> tied to
> >>                 // user-facing output.
> >>                 extra_configure_flags='--disable-shared --disable-java
> >> --disable-csharp --with-pic';
> >>                 lib_path=intl/.libs; };
> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> >>
> >> ... and it is applied:
> >>
> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> >> -bash-5.1$ ./config.status --config
> >> --srcdir=../../gcc/gettext/gettext-runtime --cache-file=./config.cache
> >>   --disable-werror --with-gmp=/opt/cfarm
> >>   --with-libiconv-prefix=/opt/cfarm --disable-libstdcxx-pch
> >>   --with-included-gettext --program-transform-name=s,y,y,
> >>   --disable-option-checking --build=powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.1.0
> >>   --host=powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.1.0 --target=powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.1.0
> >>   --disable-intermodule --enable-checking=yes,types,extra
> >>   --disable-coverage --enable-languages=c,c++
> >>   --disable-build-format-warnings --disable-shared --disable-java
> >>   --disable-csharp --with-pic build_alias=powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.1.0
> >>   host_alias=powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.1.0 target_alias=powerpc-ibm-aix7.3.1.0
> >>   CC=gcc CFLAGS=-g 'LDFLAGS=-static-libstdc++ -static-libgcc
> >>   -Wl,-bbigtoc' 'CXX=g++ -std=c++11' CXXFLAGS=-g
> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> >>
> >> I'm unsure how to tell what the produced binaries are w.r.t static or
> >> shared, but I only see .o files inside intl/.libs/libintl.a, while I see
> >> a .so.1 in (e.g.) /lib/libz.a, hinting at it not being shared (?)
> >>
> >
> > An AIX shared library created by libtool will look like
> > libfoo.a[libfoo.so.N], where N is the package major version number.
> > Normally with one file.
>
> > An AIX static library will look like libfoo.a[a.o, b.o, c.o]
> > with multiple object files.
> >
> > An AIX archive can contain a combination of shared objects and
> > normal object files.
> >
> > AIX normally uses the convention shr.o or shr_64.o for the name
> > of the shared object file.  Hint, hint, an AIX archive can contain
> > both 32 bit and 64 bit object files or shared objects.
> >
> > I don't know why the gettext build system would create
> > /home/arsen/build/./gettext/intl/.libs/libintl.a(libintl.so.8)
> > if --disable-shared was requested.  That clearly is using the
> > naming of a libtool AIX shared object and failing due to
> > the missing shared object.  Although in this case, the problem
> > seems to be the shared library load path.  AIX uses LIBPATH,
> > not LD_LIBRARY_PATH.
>
> It doesn't create libintl.a with a libintl.so.8 inside of it.  The
> libintl.a contains a bunch of objects, as I'd expect of a static
> library:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> -bash-5.1$ ar -t gettext/intl/.libs/libintl.a  | grep libintl
> -bash-5.1$ ar -t gettext/intl/.libs/libintl.a
> bindtextdom.o
> dcgettext.o
> ...
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
> > Also, for me, the out of tree path was
> >
> > gettext/gettext-runtime/intl/.libs
> >
> > Is your search path missing a level?
>
> No, the above is generated by the GCC build system and builds
> gettext-runtime directly (per Brunos recommendation a while ago) as it
> is replacing intl/ of similar functionality.
>
> I'm currently building GCC with libintl with the threads hack you
> mentioned applied (as I got undefined references to the pthread
> functions you discovered).  I suspect that, bar this issue (which, IIUC,
> Bruno will fix in a new release?) the patch above will fix the issues
> you've encountered on AIX (note that if you want to use gettext in-tree,
> you'd still have to fetch gettext into the tree).
>
> Maybe we should provide a download-prerequisite-y script that skips
> everything but GNU gettext, to retain same behavior?
>
> Have a lovely day.
>

I'm concerned that the gettext fixes are working around AIX support for
libpthread.a as opposed to making --disable-threads function.

--enabled-threads=isoc use of mtx_* is a workaround, but it's still not
allowing users to truly disable threads.

Thanks, David

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-17 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-14 20:37 David Edelsohn
2023-11-14 23:06 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-15  1:49   ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-15 12:29     ` building GNU gettext on AIX Bruno Haible
2023-11-15 19:26       ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-15 21:22         ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-15 21:31           ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-15 22:39             ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 16:00               ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 16:35                 ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:01                   ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:17                     ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:52                       ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 22:18                         ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 22:46                           ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 23:10                             ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17  8:33                               ` Richard Biener
2023-11-17  8:49                                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17 12:24                                 ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-17 13:06                                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 23:38                             ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-17  0:07                               ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-17  0:15                                 ` David Edelsohn
     [not found]                 ` <84B39BF1-33D5-488E-8CF5-D08B09417568@gmail.com>
2023-11-16 17:44                   ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:47                     ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 18:50                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 18:59                         ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-16 19:14                           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-19 19:49                       ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-15 14:14     ` [PATCH v3 0/2] Replace intl/ with out-of-tree GNU gettext Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-15 15:51       ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-11-16 18:48         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-15 17:19       ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 18:33         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 21:11           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 21:40             ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 22:19               ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 22:30                 ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-16 22:32                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-16 23:59                     ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-17  8:34                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17  8:50                         ` Richard Biener
2023-11-17  8:56                           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17 14:41                         ` David Edelsohn [this message]
2023-11-17 15:16                           ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-17 16:07                             ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-18 18:10                               ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-19 21:55                               ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-19 23:00                                 ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-19 23:06                                   ` Andrew Pinski
2023-11-20  1:17                                 ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-20 21:18                                   ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-20 21:38                                     ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-21  0:44                                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-20 23:00                                     ` Bruno Haible
2023-11-21  0:45                                       ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-21 13:13                                         ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-21 16:28                                           ` David Edelsohn
2023-11-21 20:58                                           ` Eric Gallager
2023-11-15 19:58       ` David Edelsohn
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2023-11-02  8:27 Arsen Arsenović
2023-11-10 10:37 ` Richard Biener

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