From: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
To: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@adacore.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>,
Rainer Orth <ro@CeBiTec.Uni-Bielefeld.DE>,
Mike Stump <mikestump@comcast.net>,
Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH #2/4] c++: mark short-enums as packed
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 13:12:22 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d922575-6f5a-4458-b3dc-a25dce128e24@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <oro7fmmcbk.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org>
On 11/22/23 03:17, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2023, Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the warning is wrong here.
>
> Interesting... Yeah, your analysis makes perfect sense.
>
> Still, we're left with a divergence WRT the TYPE_PACKED status of enum
> types between C and C++.
>
> It sort of kind of makes sense to mark short enums as packed, because,
> well, they are.
The enum is conceptually packed into a smaller integer type, sure.
> Even enum types with explicit attribute packed, that IIUC uses the same
> underlying type selection as -fshort-enums, IIRC are not be marked with
> TYPE_PACKED in C++, at least not at the place where I proposed to set
> it. Do you consider that behavior correct?
Since attribute ((packed)) has this meaning, it seems reasonable to set
TYPE_PACKED to express it.
> Even if the warning happens to be buggy in this regard, it is at best
> (or worst) accessory to this patch, in that it makes that difference
> between languages apparent, and I worry that there might be other middle
> end tests involving TYPE_PACKED that would get things different in C vs
> C++. (admittedly, I haven't searched for occurrences of TYPE_PACKED in
> the tree, but I could, to alleviate my concerns, in case there's a
> decision to keep them different)
The middle-end doesn't seem to use TYPE_PACKED for anything other than
structure layout.
>> In the analyzer testcase, we have a cast from an
>> enum pointer that we don't know what it points to, and even if it did
>> point to the obj_type member of struct connection, that wouldn't be a
>> problem because it's at offset 0.
>
> Maybe I misunderstand the point of the warning, but ISTM that the
> circumstance it's warning about is real: the member is not as aligned as
> the enclosing struct, so the cast is risky. Now, I suppose the idiom of
> finding the enclosing struct given a member is common enough that we
> don't want to warn about it in general. I'm not sure what makes packed
> structs special in this regard, though. I don't really see much
> difference, more laxly-aligned fields seem equally warn-worthy, whether
> the enclosing struct is packed or not, but what do I know?
Exactly. If we want to warn about casting from pointer to less-aligned
type to pointer to more-aligned type, that's already
-Wcast-align=strict; whether the lower alignment is due to TYPE_PACKED
seems irrelevant.
The observation that the type-based warning is a subset of
-Wcast-align=strict was previously made in the discussion of the patch
for PR88928.
And the motivating testcase for the warning was about converting from
unaligned int* to aligned int*, not to a different type at all. And
that warning doesn't involve TYPE_PACKED.
The clang -Waddress-of-packed-member doesn't seem to include the
type-based warning.
>> Also, -fshort-enums has nothing to do with structure packing
>
> *nod*, it's about packing of the enum type itself. It is some sort of a
> degenerated aggregate type ;-) But yeah, I guess it doesn't fit the
> circumstance the warning was meant to catch, and the fact that in C is
> does is a consequence of marking C short enums as TYPE_PACKED.
>
> Which might be a bug in C.
>
> But wouldn't it be a bug in C++ if an enum with attribute packed weren't
> markd as TYPE_PACKED? Or is TYPE_PACKED really meant to say something
> about the enclosing struct rather than about the enclosed type itself?
> (am I getting too philosophical here? :-)
I'm coming to the conclusion that your C++ patch is fine but we should
remove the TYPE_PACKED warning from
check_address_or_pointer_of_packed_member. And maybe add
-Wcast-align=strict to -Wextra.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-22 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-19 7:36 [PATCH] testsuite: analyzer: expect alignment warning with -fshort-enums Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-19 15:13 ` Jeff Law
2023-11-20 22:19 ` David Malcolm
2023-11-20 2:33 ` [PATCH #2/4] c++: mark short-enums as packed Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-20 19:55 ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-22 8:17 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-22 18:12 ` Jason Merrill [this message]
2023-11-22 18:26 ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-29 9:39 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-29 19:03 ` Jason Merrill
2023-11-30 7:21 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-20 2:34 ` [PATCH #3/4] warn on cast of pointer to packed plus constant Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-20 2:34 ` [PATCH #4/4] testsuite: discard c++ exclusion on underaligned pointer warning Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-23 20:27 ` Mike Stump
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