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From: Philipp Tomsich <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu>
To: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
Cc: jeffreyalaw@gmail.com, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
	 Vineet Gupta <vineetg@rivosinc.com>,
	Kito Cheng <kito.cheng@gmail.com>,
	jlaw@ventanamicro.com,  christoph.muellner@vrull.eu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RISC-V: branch-(not)equals-zero compares against $zero
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 10:14:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAeLtUA4f2gC4OyP54pVuMGooKwSv4_6ymq8uxcyr765AkFK_A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mhng-8c4face3-3322-42a4-b9d8-76941899e4f1@palmer-ri-x1c9a>

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 at 05:53, Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 14:44:31 PST (-0800), jeffreyalaw@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On 11/8/22 12:55, Philipp Tomsich wrote:
> >> If we are testing a register or a paradoxical subreg (i.e. anything that is not
> >> a partial subreg) for equality/non-equality with zero, we can generate a branch
> >> that compares against $zero.  This will work for QI, HI, SI and DImode, so we
> >> enable this for ANYI.
> >>
> >> 2020-08-30  gcc/ChangeLog:
> >>
> >>      * config/riscv/riscv.md (*branch<mode>_equals_zero): Added pattern.
> >
> > I've gone back an forth on this a few times.  As you know, I hate
> > subregs in the target descriptions and I guess I need to extend that to
> > querying if something is a subreg or not rather than just subregs
> > appearing in the RTL.
> >
> >
> > Presumably the idea behind rejecting partial subregs is the bits outside
> > the partial is unspecified, but that's also going to be true if we're
> > looking at a hardreg in QImode (for example) irrespective of it being
> > wrapped in a subreg.
> >
> >
> > I don't doubt it works the vast majority of the time, but I haven't been
> > able to convince myself it'll work all the time.  How do we ensure that
> > the bits outside the mode are zero?  I've been bitten by this kind of
> > problem before, and it's safe to say it was exceedingly painful to find.
>
> I don't really understand the middle-end issues here (if there are
> any?), but I'm pretty sure code like this has passed by a few times
> before and we've yet to find a reliable way to optimize these cases.
> There's a bunch of patterns where knowing the XLEN-extension of shorter
> values would let us generate better code, but there's also cases where
> we'd generate worse code by ensure any extension scheme is followed.
>
> Every time I've seen this come up before I've managed to convince myself
> we can't really fix the problem in the backend, though: if we always
> generate extended values in registers then we just push the cost over to
> the other patterns.  The only way I've come up with to handle something
> like this is to push more types into the middle-end so we can track
> these high bits and generate the faster sequences where we know what
> they are.  That seems like a huge mess, though, and every time it comes
> up folks run away ;)

You are perfectly right that this problem can not be fixed in the
backend, at least not in a general manner (i.e., additional patterns
can resolve some of the cases and it is messy in the backend).

In fact, we are looking at fixing this before/during lowering by
avoiding the extension whenever possible (based on the type
information and even value ranges).  However, this work will miss
GCC13 and that is the reason why the band-aid was submitted here.

> Sorry if that's kind of vague, I usually find a way to break these but
> my box isn't cooperating with GCC builds today so I haven't even gotten
> that far yet...

I am gathering the original rationale why this should be safe from our
internal communication (the change is 2 years old, after all) and will
follow up.
If you find a way to break this in the meantime, please let us know.

Philipp.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-08 19:55 Philipp Tomsich
2022-11-17 22:44 ` Jeff Law
2022-11-18  4:53   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-18  9:14     ` Philipp Tomsich [this message]
2022-11-19 16:47     ` Jeff Law

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