From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: GCC patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [COMMITTED] Drop -0.0 in frange::set() for !HONOR_SIGNED_ZEROS.
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:06:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGm3qMWUh3NBMZjEsUB24V9OMh7L=479QReG3fL1HjegBNGp-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y0l5fm1m0eyQwYDT@tucnak>
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 5:00 PM Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 04:53:13PM +0200, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
> > > This looks wrong to me.
> > > !HONOR_NANS is different from !HONOR_SIGNED_ZEROS.
> > > The former says that either NaNs aren't supported or if they appear,
> > > it will be UB.
> > > The latter says that either -0.0 doesn't exist, or user doesn't care
> > > if -0.0 or 0.0 is used.
> > >
> > > So, what you do is ok for !MODE_HAS_SIGNED_ZEROS (TYPE_MODE (m_type)),
> > > but otherwise we want to canonicalize [x, -0.0] to [x, 0.0] and
> > > [0.0, y] to [-0.0, y].
> >
> > If the user doesn't care, I would expect they'd be ok with it being
> > +0.0, but I must say, this is way beyond my paygrade.
>
> Unlike the NaN case where they can (easily) arrange for NaNs not to appear
> (say, avoid numerically undefined operations), for +/-0 if the hardware
> supports it they don't have much choice, sometimes computation will yield
> one, sometimes the other. The option is "I don't use anything that depends
> on the zero sign, which is e.g. copysign from zero, signbit or poking at the
> bit patterns".
>
> > How does this patch in testing look?
>
> LGTM (perhaps some comment would be nice though).
Ughh, can I trouble you for one, cause frankly I'm a bit lost on this one?
Aldy
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-14 14:26 Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-14 14:26 ` [COMMITTED] Normalize ranges over the range for both bounds when -ffinite-math-only Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-14 14:26 ` [COMMITTED] Replace CFN_BUILTIN_SIGNBIT* cases with CASE_FLT_FN Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-14 14:32 ` [COMMITTED] Drop -0.0 in frange::set() for !HONOR_SIGNED_ZEROS Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-14 14:53 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-14 15:00 ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-14 15:06 ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
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