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From: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
To: Richard Sandiford <Richard.Sandiford@arm.com>,
	Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>, "rguenther@suse.de" <rguenther@suse.de>,
	"jlaw@ventanamicro.com" <jlaw@ventanamicro.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: Fix wrong overmatching of div-bitmask by using new optabs [PR108583]
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 22:10:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <VI1PR08MB5325B7420AD3ECABD42B6E60FFAF9@VI1PR08MB5325.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mptcz5upze9.fsf@arm.com>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 9:33 PM
> To: Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
> Cc: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>; nd <nd@arm.com>;
> rguenther@suse.de; jlaw@ventanamicro.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: Fix wrong overmatching of div-bitmask
> by using new optabs [PR108583]
> 
> Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> writes:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 12:12 PM
> >> To: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
> >> Cc: Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd
> >> <nd@arm.com>; rguenther@suse.de; jlaw@ventanamicro.com
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: Fix wrong overmatching of
> >> div-bitmask by using new optabs [PR108583]
> >>
> >> Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com> writes:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >> > I avoided open coding it with add and shift because it creates a
> >> >> > 4 instructions (and shifts which are typically slow) dependency
> >> >> > chain instead of a load and multiply.  This change, unless the
> >> >> > target is known to optimize it further is unlikely to be
> >> >> > beneficial.  And by the time we get to costing the only
> >> >> > alternative is to undo the existing pattern and
> >> >> so you lose the general shift optimization.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So it seemed unwise to open code as shifts, given the codegen
> >> >> > out of the vectorizer would be degenerate for most targets or
> >> >> > one needs the more complicated route of costing during pattern
> matching already.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmm, OK.  That seems like a cost-model thing though, rather than
> >> >> something that should be exposed through optabs.  And I imagine
> >> >> the open-coded version would still be better than nothing on
> >> >> targets without
> >> highpart multiply.
> >> >>
> >> >> So how about replacing the hook with one that simply asks whether
> >> >> division through highpart multiplication is preferred over the
> >> >> add/shift
> >> sequence?
> >> >> (Unfortunately it's not going to be possible to work that out from
> >> >> existing
> >> >> information.)
> >> >
> >> > So this doesn't work for SVE.  For SVE the multiplication widening
> >> > pass introduces FMAs at gimple level.  So in the cases where the
> >> > operation is fed from a widening multiplication we end up generating
> FMA.
> >> If that was it I could have matched FMA.
> >> >
> >> > But it also pushes the multiplication in the second operand because
> >> > it no longer has a mul to share the results with.
> >> >
> >> > In any case, the gimple code is transformed into
> >> >
> >> > vect__3.8_122 = .MASK_LOAD (_29, 8B, loop_mask_121);
> >> > vect_patt_57.9_123 = (vector([8,8]) unsigned short) vect__3.8_122;
> >> > vect_patt_64.11_127 = .FMA (vect_patt_57.9_123, vect_cst__124, {
> >> > 257, ... });
> >> > vect_patt_65.12_128 = vect_patt_64.11_127 >> 8;
> >> > vect_patt_66.13_129 = .FMA (vect_patt_57.9_123, vect_cst__124,
> >> > vect_patt_65.12_128);
> >> > vect_patt_62.14_130 = vect_patt_66.13_129 >> 8;
> >> > vect_patt_68.15_131 = (vector([8,8]) unsigned charD.21)
> >> > vect_patt_62.14_130;
> >> >
> >> > This transformation is much worse than the original code, it
> >> > extended the dependency chain with another expensive instruction. I
> >> > can try to correct this in RTL by matching FMA and shift and
> >> > splitting into MUL +
> >> ADDHNB and hope CSE takes care of the extra mul.
> >> >
> >> > But this seems like a hack, and it's basically undoing the earlier
> >> > transformation.  It seems to me that the open coding is a bad idea.
> >>
> >> Could you post the patch that gives this result?  I'll have a poke around.
> >
> > Sure, I'll post the new series, it needs all of them.
> 
> Thanks.  Which testcase did you use to get the above?
> 

#include <stdint.h>

#define N 16
#define TYPE uint8_t

void fun3(TYPE* restrict pixel, TYPE level, int n)
{
  for (int i = 0; i < (n & -16); i+=1)
    pixel[i] = (pixel[i] * level) / 0xff;
}

> But since SVE does have highpart multiply, and since the assumption for SVE is
> that MULH+shift is better than ADD*3+shift*2, shouldn't SVE just be one of
> the targets for which the hook that "asks whether division through highpart
> multiplication is preferred over the add/shift sequence" returns true?
> 

Yes (it's also two adds not 3), but it's not correct for SVE2, which has addhnb, in which case 2x addhnb is
much faster than MULH+shift.  And the problem is that widening_mul will not
allow add+shift to reach the backend because the ADD+shift were open coded.

They are now subjected to further optimization.

To summarize:

Other targets: false
SVE: false
SVE2: true
NEON: true

SVE2 borked because MUL+ADD+SHIFT -> FMA+SHIFT.

If you're saying you don't want the optimization for SVE2, then sure, happy to turn it off.

But  UMULH+LSR == 6 cycles on Neoverse-N2 and throughput of 1.
2x ADDHNB = 4 cycles and throughput of 2.

Tamar.

> 
> Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-27 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 17:16 Tamar Christina
2023-02-09 17:22 ` [PATCH 2/2]AArch64 Update div-bitmask to implement new optab instead of target hook [PR108583] Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 10:35   ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 14:10   ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 10:34 ` [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: Fix wrong overmatching of div-bitmask by using new optabs [PR108583] Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 13:13 ` Richard Biener
2023-02-10 13:36 ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 13:52   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-10 14:13   ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 14:30     ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 14:54       ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-27 11:09       ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-27 12:11         ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-27 12:14           ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-27 21:33             ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-27 22:10               ` Tamar Christina [this message]
2023-02-28 11:08                 ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-28 11:12                   ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-28 12:03                     ` Richard Sandiford
2023-03-01 11:30                       ` Richard Biener
2023-02-10 15:56     ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 16:09       ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 16:25         ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 16:33           ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 16:57             ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 17:01               ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 17:14               ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-10 18:12                 ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-10 18:34                   ` Richard Biener
2023-02-10 20:58                     ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-13  9:54                       ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-15 12:51                         ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-15 16:05                           ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-15 17:13                             ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-15 17:50                               ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-15 18:42                                 ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-22 12:51                                   ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-22 16:41                                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-22 18:03                                     ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-22 18:33                                       ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-23  8:36                                         ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-23 16:39                                           ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-02-23 16:56                                             ` Tamar Christina
2023-03-01 16:57                                             ` Andrew Carlotti
2023-03-01 18:16                                               ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-22 13:06                                 ` Tamar Christina
2023-02-22 15:19                                   ` Andrew MacLeod

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