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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Martin Uecker <ma.uecker@gmail.com>
Cc: "gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] middle-end IFN_ASSUME support [PR106654]
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2022 23:20:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y0nSo4BcXzehC91z@tucnak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4dcc975beb8b39ab4d57b28334c6ab3348855bd9.camel@gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:43:16PM +0200, Martin Uecker wrote:
> Am Montag, den 10.10.2022, 10:54 +0200 schrieb Jakub Jelinek:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > My earlier patches gimplify the simplest non-side-effects assumptions
> > into if (cond) ; else __builtin_unreachable (); and throw the rest
> > on the floor.
> > The following patch attempts to do something with the rest too.
> 
> My recommendation would be to only process side-effect-free
> assumptions and warn about the rest (clang does this for
> __builtin_assume).   I do not think this is worth the

I think that is bad choice and makes it useless.

> complexity and I am not so sure the semantics of a
> hypothetical evaluation are terribly well defined.

I think the C++23 paper is quite clear.  Yes, you can't verify it
in debug mode, but there are many other UBs that are hard to verify
through runtime instrumentation.
And, OpenMP has a similar feature (though, in that case it is even
a stronger guarantee where something is guaranteed to hold across
a whole region rather than just on its entry.

> That you can not verify this properly by turning it
> into traps in debug mode (as this would execute the
> side effects) also makes this a terrible feature IMHO.
> 
> MSVC which this feature was based does not seem to make
> much to sense to me: https://godbolt.org/z/4Ebar3G9b

So maybe their feature is different from what is in C++23,
or is badly implemented?
I think with what we have in the works for GCC we'll be able to optimize
in
int f(int i)
{
  [[assume(1 == i++)]];
  return (1 == i++);
}

int g(int i)
{
  [[assume(1 == ++i)]];
  return (1 == ++i);
}

extern int i;

int h(void) 
{
  [[assume(1 == ++i)]];
  return (1 == ++i);
}


int k(int i)
{
  [[assume(42 == ++i)]];
  return i;
}
at least f/g to return 1; and k to return 41;
The h case might take a while to take advantage of.

	Jakub


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-14 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-10  8:54 Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-10 21:09 ` Jason Merrill
2022-10-10 21:19   ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-11 13:36     ` [PATCH] middle-end, v2: " Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-12 15:48       ` Jason Merrill
2022-10-13  6:50         ` [PATCH] middle-end, v3: " Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-14 11:27           ` Richard Biener
2022-10-14 18:33             ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-17  6:55               ` Richard Biener
2022-10-17 15:44             ` [PATCH] middle-end, v4: " Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-18  7:00               ` Richard Biener
2022-10-18 21:31               ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-19 16:06                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-19 16:55                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-19 17:39                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-19 17:41                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-19 18:25                         ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-19 17:14                   ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-11 18:05 ` [PATCH] middle-end " Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-12 10:15   ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-12 14:31     ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-12 14:39       ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-12 16:12         ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-13  8:11           ` Richard Biener
2022-10-13  9:53             ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-13 13:16               ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-13  9:57           ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-17 17:53     ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-14 20:43 ` Martin Uecker
2022-10-14 21:20   ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2022-10-15  8:07     ` Martin Uecker
2022-10-15  8:53       ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-10-17  5:52         ` Martin Uecker
2022-11-08  9:19 Pilar Latiesa
2022-11-08 12:10 ` Jakub Jelinek

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