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From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] range-op-float: Fix up -ffinite-math-only range extension and don't extend into infinities [PR109008]
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:59:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aca40d6b-5b62-e923-7c9f-e75881ce7ead@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2303130750050.18795@jbgna.fhfr.qr>



On 3/13/23 08:50, Richard Biener wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 3/10/23 11:29, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 08:53:37AM +0000, Richard Biener wrote:
>>>> Meh - I wonder if we can avoid all this by making float_widen_lhs_range
>>>> friend of frange and simply access m_min/m_max directly and use the
>>>> copy-CTOR to copy bounds and nan state ... after all verify_range
>>>> will likely fail after you restore flag_finite_math_only ...
>>>
>>> I'll defer such changes to Aldy.
>>>
>>> As for verification, I think verify_range will not fail on it, it mainly
>>> checks whether it is normalized (e.g. if minimum is frange_val_min and
>>> maximum is frange_val_max and NaNs are possible with both signs (if NaNs
>>> are supported) then it is VR_VARYING etc.).  It doesn't check if the actual
>>> VR_RANGE bounds are smaller or larger than the VR_VARYING bounds, there is
>>> just equality check.
>>> Of course, behavior of wider than varying ranges is still unexpected in
>>> many ways, say the union_ of such a range and VR_VARYING will ICE etc.
>>>
>>> Now, I guess another possibility for the reverse ops over these wider ranges
>>> would be avoid calling fold_range in the reverse ops, but call rv_fold
>>> directly or have fold_range variant which would instead of the op1, op2
>>> argument have 2 triplets, op1, op1lb, op1ub, op2, op2lb, op2ub, and it
>>> would use those const REAL_VALUE_TYPE &op??b in preference to
>>> op?.{lower,upper}_bound () or perhaps normal fold_range be implemented
>>> in terms of this extended fold_range.  Then we wouldn't need to bother with
>>> these non-standard franges...
>>>
>>>> But OK for the moment.
>>>
>>> Thanks, committed.
>>
>> I'm not a big fan of constructing ranges that break all our internal
>> consistency checks.  I'd also prefer to add another constructor (or add a flag
>> to the current constructor) instead of making range-op-float routines friends.
>> We also have bits in the vrange (or frange) that we could use for other
>> semantics, especially since frange_storage can be streamlined when stored in
>> GC/etc.
>>
>> I'm on PTO this week.  Could we revisit this next week?  And if worse comes to
>> worse, leave it as is, and fix it properly next release?
> 
> Yes, sure - I just noticed that we're forced to use high-level API for
> something that's quite low-level and should be internal (a range
> "breaking" internal consistency checks).

Yeah, let's fix the API.  No sense hacking around things if what we need 
is to tweak the design.

I don't like hacking around things.  It always comes back to bite me ;-).

Aldy


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-13  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-10  8:07 Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-10  8:53 ` Richard Biener
2023-03-10 10:29   ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-13  7:18     ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-13  7:50       ` Richard Biener
2023-03-13  7:59         ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
2023-03-13  8:06           ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-13  8:41             ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-20 16:14               ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-21 12:56                 ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-21 13:28   ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-21 13:39     ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-21 13:49       ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-21 13:56         ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-22  6:32           ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-22  8:35             ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-28  7:54             ` [PATCH] range-op-float: Use get_nan_state in float_widen_lhs_range Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-28  8:50               ` Aldy Hernandez
2023-03-29  9:39                 ` Aldy Hernandez

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