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From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
To: jeffreyalaw@gmail.com
Cc: Kito Cheng <kito.cheng@gmail.com>, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RISC-V: Add the Zihpm and Zicntr extensions
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 07:29:46 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mhng-0ed782b3-d76e-46a4-b513-3db6f8b657d5@palmer-ri-x1c9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <113a2b0a-8b8a-3d6c-60ec-8d57cf7350f4@gmail.com>

On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 07:20:15 PST (-0800), jeffreyalaw@gmail.com wrote:
>
> On 11/20/22 18:36, Kito Cheng wrote:
>>> So the idea here is just to define the extension so that it gets defined
>>> in the ISA strings and passed through to the assembler, right?
>> That will also define arch test marco:
>>
>> https://github.com/riscv-non-isa/riscv-c-api-doc/blob/master/riscv-c-api.md#architecture-extension-test-macro
>
> Sorry I should have been clearer and included the test macro(s) as well.
>
> So a better summary would be that while it doesn't change the codegen
> behavior in the compiler, it does provide the mechanisms to pass along
> isa strings to other tools such as the assembler and signal via the test
> macros that this extension is available.

IMO the important bit here is that we're not adding any compatibility 
flags, like we did when fence.i was removed from the ISA.  That's fine 
as long as we never remove these instructions from the base ISA in the 
software, but that's what's suggested by Andrew in the post.

> If so I think that it meets Andrew's requirements and at least some of
> those issues raised by Jim.   But I'm not sure it can address your
> concern WRT consistency.  In fact, I don't really see a way to address
> that concern with option #2 which Andrew seems to think is the only
> reasonable path forward from an RVI standpoint.
>
>
> I'm at a loss for next steps, particularly as the newbie in this world.

It's a super weird one, but there's a bunch of cases in RISC-V where 
we're told to just ignore words in the ISA manual.  Definitely a trap 
for users (and we already had some Linux folks get bit by the counter 
changes here), but that's just how RISC-V works.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-09  3:00 Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-18  2:14 ` Christoph Müllner
2022-11-18  4:29   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2022-11-20 16:19 ` Jeff Law
2022-11-21  1:36   ` Kito Cheng
2022-11-22 15:20     ` Jeff Law
2022-11-22 15:29       ` Palmer Dabbelt [this message]
2022-11-22 21:50         ` Jeff Law
2022-11-22 22:00           ` Palmer Dabbelt
2024-01-19  8:01             ` Kito Cheng

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