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From: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@adacore.com>
To: Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com>
Cc: Iain Sandoe <idsandoe@googlemail.com>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Nathan Sidwell <nathan@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce -nolibstdc++ option
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:25:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <orsfddajk7.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2262fbfb-77b8-5901-4067-2db72226732e@pfeifer.com> (Gerald Pfeifer's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2023 01:13:51 +0200 (CEST)")

On Mar 30, 2023, Gerald Pfeifer <gerald@pfeifer.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> How about this, does this seem useful?

> I like it - helpful and easy to understand. :-)

'k, I'm putting it in, thanks


On Mar 30, 2023, Arsen Arsenović <arsen@aarsen.me> wrote:

> IMO, yes - in fact, the libstdc++ manual even has a use-case for this

Yeah, and it also had the means to accomplish that already.  -nostdlib++
was for the testsuite, that always uses g++ for linking C++ tests.

I suppose libstdc++ now has an alternative it might consider switching
to, namely using g++ -nostdlib++ rather than gcc to link itself, but
should it?  I don't see the upside.  Its build process is not broken,
it's not even inconvenient, so what's the expected benefit that the
change would bring about?  As for downsides, I perceive risks of build
scripts (e.g. libtool)'s not yet having support for -nostdlib++, and
thus trying to use the flag could break rather than improve the state of
affairs.  It feels like inviting trouble to me.

> If you think the flag you added fits here, would you mind also including
> this file in your patch?

The patch was for the online release documentation, it's not even the
same repository as libstdc++, so there's no way to add it to the same
patch.

Given that, and since I'm not so sure I understand what change you're
suggesting to libstdc++'s manual or build procedures, how about you
give it a shot yourself?

-- 
Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker                https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/
   Free Software Activist                       GNU Toolchain Engineer
Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice
but very few check the facts.  Ask me about <https://stallmansupport.org>

      reply	other threads:[~2023-04-06  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-21  5:55 Alexandre Oliva
2022-06-21  7:37 ` Richard Biener
2022-06-21  7:53   ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-21  8:03     ` Richard Biener
2022-06-21  8:19       ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-22  0:36     ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-06-22 18:39       ` Iain Sandoe
2022-06-22 23:28         ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-06-22 23:42           ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-23 11:27           ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-06-24  5:23             ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-09-16 11:52               ` Jason Merrill
2022-09-16 11:53                 ` Jason Merrill
2022-11-28 17:56                 ` Jason Merrill
2023-02-11  9:09             ` Gerald Pfeifer
2023-03-30 11:23               ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-03-30 13:38                 ` Arsen Arsenović
2023-03-30 23:13                 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2023-04-06  1:25                   ` Alexandre Oliva [this message]

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