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From: Jonathan Wakely <jwakely.gcc@gmail.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: "David Malcolm" <dmalcolm@redhat.com>, GCC <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"Iker Pedrosa" <ipedrosa@redhat.com>,
	"Siddhesh Poyarekar" <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Sam James" <sam@gentoo.org>, "Paul Eggert" <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Martin Uecker" <uecker@tugraz.at>,
	"Jₑₙₛ Gustedt" <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>,
	"Yann Droneaud" <ydroneaud@opteya.com>
Subject: Re: Missed warning (-Wuse-after-free)
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:04:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH6eHdRySgYQcQzGPYMiRosvoeu7QDuR5AoJHSk2UsG8SPKU5g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6aaff906-1c3b-c625-7d5c-68c56583257d@gmail.com>

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2023, 11:43 Alejandro Colomar, <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> On 2/17/23 12:24, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> > Please be aware that in C++ it's implementation-defined, not undefined.
> >
> > That means that an implementation without trap representations for
> pointers
> > can choose to make it behave just like using (uintptr_t)p.
>
> (uintptr_t)p is defined (I believe) for C <= C17.  However, as noted in my
> last email, even that is UB for C2x.  Of course, UB means that the compiler
> might make it defined, but as Martin suggested, that's might have its own
> issues.
>

Yes, I just meant in C++, and C++ has no such rules.



> >
> > https://cplusplus.github.io/CWG/issues/1438.html
> > https://cplusplus.github.io/CWG/issues/623.html
> > https://cplusplus.github.io/CWG/issues/616.html
> > https://cplusplus.github.io/CWG/issues/312.html
> >
> > We could still warn in C++ (because the code isn't portable) but I would
> > strongly suggest we don't influence C++ codegen based on deallocated
> > pointers being undefined. I don't think gcc supports any targets with
> > trapping pointers, and there are quite enough sources of UB already. We
> > don't need to create traps for users where there are no traps for
> pointers
> > :-)
>
> I would warn in C++ too, as some of that code might be in interfaces that
> should be compatible with C.  Maybe not include it in -Wextra in C++ (but
> include it in C's -Wextra)...
>

I agree with warning in C++, just not optimizing based on the assumption
that any use of an invalid pointer implies unreachable code (as in your
original example).

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-17 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-16 14:35 Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-16 15:15 ` David Malcolm
2023-02-17  1:04   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17  1:05     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17  1:56       ` Sam James
2023-02-17  8:12     ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-17 11:35       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17 13:34         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-02-17 13:48         ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-23 19:23           ` Alex Colomar
2023-02-23 19:57             ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-24  0:02               ` Alex Colomar
2023-02-24  1:21                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2023-02-24  1:42                   ` Alex Colomar
2023-02-24  3:01                     ` Peter Lafreniere
2023-02-24  8:52                       ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-24  8:43                     ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-24 16:10                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2023-02-24  8:36                   ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-24 16:01                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2023-02-24 16:37                       ` Martin Uecker
2023-02-17  3:48   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 11:22     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17 13:38       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 14:01         ` Mark Wielaard
2023-02-17 14:06           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 21:20         ` [PATCH] Make -Wuse-after-free=3 the default one in -Wall Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17 21:39           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 21:41             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 22:58             ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17 23:03               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 11:24     ` Missed warning (-Wuse-after-free) Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-17 11:43       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-02-17 12:04         ` Jonathan Wakely [this message]
2023-02-17 12:53       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17 14:10         ` Jonathan Wakely
2023-02-17 13:44     ` David Malcolm
2023-02-17 14:01       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-02-17  8:49 ` Yann Droneaud

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