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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, "GNU C Library" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Missing optimization: mempcpy(3) vs memcpy(3)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:56:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5czFAB8PFMCHxWM@tucnak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eccdad35-d7c2-0638-d946-8e94654e0e00@gmail.com>

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 02:44:04PM +0100, Alejandro Colomar via Gcc wrote:
> > I don't see any problem with the code snippets you provided.
> 
> Well, then the optimization may be the other way around (although I question
> why it is implemented that way, and not the other way around, but I'm not a
> hardware or libc guy, so there may be reasons).
> 
> If calling memcpy(3) is better, then the code calling mempcpy(3) could be
> expanded inline to call it (but I doubt it).
> 
> If calling mempcpy(3) is better, then the hand-made pattern resembling
> mempcpy(3) should probably be merged as a call to mempcpy(3).
> 
> But acting different on equivalent calls to both of them seems inconsistent
> to me, unless you trust the programmer to know better how to optimize, that
> is...

I think that is the case, plus the question if one can use a non-standard
function to implement a standard function (and if it would be triggered
by seeing an expected prototype for the non-standard function).

Otherwise, whether mempcpy in libc is implemented as memcpy + tweak return
value or has its own implementation is something that is heavily dependent
on the target and changes over time, so hardcoding that in gcc is
problematic.  For -Os mempcpy call might be very well smaller even if the
library side is then slower.

	Jakub


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-12 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-09 17:11 Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 13:37 ` Martin Liška
2022-12-12 13:44   ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 13:56     ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2022-12-12 14:05       ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 14:48         ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-12 14:53           ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-12 15:56             ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 16:09               ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-12-12 17:15                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-12-12 17:42                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2022-12-12 14:34 Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-12 14:57 ` Cristian Rodríguez

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