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From: Pedro Alves <pedro@palves.net>
To: Tom de Vries <tdevries@suse.de>, Andrew Burgess <aburgess@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [gdb/testsuite] Fix gdb.arch/i386-avx.exp with clang
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 13:54:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1104add7-1cb0-efa1-f58a-c2d21846c5dc@palves.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a98d0ce-b473-7a44-f399-3a604a5b2516@suse.de>

On 2021-11-05 13:35, Tom de Vries wrote:
> On 11/5/21 2:20 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
>> On 2021-11-05 13:15, Tom de Vries wrote:
>>> On 11/5/21 1:55 PM, Pedro Alves wrote:
>>>> On 2021-11-05 12:23, Tom de Vries via Gdb-patches wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> No, but in gdb/testsuite/lib/attribute.h we do setup a compatibility
>>>>>> macro for 'noclone', so there's definitely precedent for using
>>>>>> attributes that might not be supported everywhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, I'm aware of this, but that's a typical case where we have no
>>>>> portable alternative.
>>>>
>>>> We actually do -- _Alignas is standard C11.  This fixes the test as well:
>>>>
>>>>   _Alignas(32) v8sf_t data[] =
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was referring to the noclone, but ok, I was not aware of the _Alignas,
>>> good to know, thanks.
>>>
>>> Anyway, in the latest version this is not relevant anymore, since the
>>> precise alignment implementation has an extra benefit, as explained in
>>> the post.
>>>
>>
>> OOC, is that benefit important here?
>>
> 
> So, this is the post I mentioned (
> https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gdb-patches/2021-November/183183.html ).
> 
> Well, the benefit is that it prevents accidental overalignment, which is
> the reason that this problem escaped detection and/or fixing for so long.
> 
> Without that, I could do a thinko and specify too small an alignment and
> have the test passing accidentally, only to fail in a different setup.
> 

The code made no effort at all to align the object, which is I think the main reason
why it went missed.  As soon as you write some explicit alignment, I don't think
that your proposal helps that much.  The new allocator won't help _finding_ the places
that miss alignment directives.  I'm honestly not finding the benefit compelling enough to
justify the complication, compared to using alignas/_Alignas, which is what actual user
code will be using.  My .2c, anyhow.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-05 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-04 13:55 Tom de Vries
2021-11-05  9:33 ` Andrew Burgess
2021-11-05  9:43   ` Tom de Vries
2021-11-05 11:54     ` Andrew Burgess
2021-11-05 12:23       ` Tom de Vries
2021-11-05 12:55         ` Pedro Alves
2021-11-05 13:15           ` Tom de Vries
2021-11-05 13:20             ` Pedro Alves
2021-11-05 13:35               ` Tom de Vries
2021-11-05 13:52                 ` Andrew Burgess
2021-12-06 15:27                   ` Tom de Vries
2021-11-05 13:54                 ` Pedro Alves [this message]
2021-12-06 15:25                   ` Tom de Vries
2021-11-05 12:24       ` Pedro Alves

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