[PATCH 0/1] The link to DTrace needs to be updated

[PATCH 0/1] The link to DTrace needs to be updated

[Eduard Sargsyan]

From: "Sargsyan, Eduard" <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>

Seems like the old link in docs is not working, since Oracle updated
website structure.

Regards,
Eduard

Eduard Sargsyan (1):
  doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

 gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

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[PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Eduard Sargsyan]

---
 gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
index 7a5d357b99b..d69c733c723 100644
--- a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
+++ b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
@@ -6141,7 +6141,7 @@ from assembly, C and C@t{++} languages@footnote{See
 @uref{http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/UserSpaceProbeImplementation}
 for a good reference on how the @acronym{SDT} probes are implemented.}.  
 
-@item @code{DTrace} (@uref{http://oss.oracle.com/projects/DTrace})
+@item @code{DTrace} (@uref{https://docs.oracle.com/en/operating-systems/oracle-linux/dtrace-guide/})
 @acronym{USDT} probes.  @code{DTrace} probes are usable from C and
 C@t{++} languages.
 @end itemize
-- 
2.34.1

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Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Eduard Sargsyan <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:45:00 +0000
> 
> ---
>  gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
> index 7a5d357b99b..d69c733c723 100644
> --- a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
> +++ b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
> @@ -6141,7 +6141,7 @@ from assembly, C and C@t{++} languages@footnote{See
>  @uref{http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/UserSpaceProbeImplementation}
>  for a good reference on how the @acronym{SDT} probes are implemented.}.  
>  
> -@item @code{DTrace} (@uref{http://oss.oracle.com/projects/DTrace})
> +@item @code{DTrace} (@uref{https://docs.oracle.com/en/operating-systems/oracle-linux/dtrace-guide/})
>  @acronym{USDT} probes.  @code{DTrace} probes are usable from C and
>  C@t{++} languages.
>  @end itemize

Thanks, but I wonder whether there are sites that document this but
are not related to specific commercial entities.

RE: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Sargsyan, Eduard]

I'm not aware of such. But I believe the new link and old one are "similar" and referring to the same page. Isn't it?

-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 12:58 PM
To: Sargsyan, Eduard <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

> From: Eduard Sargsyan <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:45:00 +0000
> 
> ---
>  gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo index 
> 7a5d357b99b..d69c733c723 100644
> --- a/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
> +++ b/gdb/doc/gdb.texinfo
> @@ -6141,7 +6141,7 @@ from assembly, C and C@t{++} 
> languages@footnote{See  
> @uref{http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/UserSpaceProbeImplementatio
> n}  for a good reference on how the @acronym{SDT} probes are 
> implemented.}.
>  
> -@item @code{DTrace} (@uref{http://oss.oracle.com/projects/DTrace})
> +@item @code{DTrace} 
> +(@uref{https://docs.oracle.com/en/operating-systems/oracle-linux/dtra
> +ce-guide/})
>  @acronym{USDT} probes.  @code{DTrace} probes are usable from C and  
> C@t{++} languages.
>  @end itemize

Thanks, but I wonder whether there are sites that document this but are not related to specific commercial entities.
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Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: "Sargsyan, Eduard" <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
> CC: "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:01:22 +0000
> 
> I'm not aware of such. But I believe the new link and old one are "similar" and referring to the same page. Isn't it?

I get 404 for the old one.

Isn't this page describing the same stuff:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTrace

RE: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Sargsyan, Eduard]

Yeah, that's why I made this change. The latest "old" version I've found is here: https://web.archive.org/web/20210702172846/https://oss.oracle.com/projects/DTrace/

-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 2:25 PM
To: Sargsyan, Eduard <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

> From: "Sargsyan, Eduard" <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
> CC: "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2023 12:01:22 +0000
> 
> I'm not aware of such. But I believe the new link and old one are "similar" and referring to the same page. Isn't it?

I get 404 for the old one.

Isn't this page describing the same stuff:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTrace
Intel Deutschland GmbH
Registered Address: Am Campeon 10, 85579 Neubiberg, Germany
Tel: +49 89 99 8853-0, www.intel.de <http://www.intel.de>
Managing Directors: Christin Eisenschmid, Sharon Heck, Tiffany Doon Silva  
Chairperson of the Supervisory Board: Nicole Lau
Registered Office: Munich
Commercial Register: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 186928

RE: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Sargsyan, Eduard]

So should we use link from Wikipedia? If we want to be just replace old link, to the "same page" we probably need to use the link I have in the patch, but if we want to stay as far away from brands/commercial entities, then probably link to the Wikipedia is better. But in the second case, document reader will need to go to Wikipedia, then follow to links on the Wikipedia page.
Or as an option we can directly use link from Wikipedia: https://dtrace.org/about/
Which approach you find more desirable?

-----Original Message-----
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> 
> Date: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 2:25 PM
> Cc: gdb-patches@sourceware.org
> 
> I get 404 for the old one.
>
> Isn't this page describing the same stuff:
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTrace
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Chairperson of the Supervisory Board: Nicole Lau
Registered Office: Munich
Commercial Register: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 186928

Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: "Sargsyan, Eduard" <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
> CC: "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 11:14:53 +0000
> 
> So should we use link from Wikipedia? If we want to be just replace old link, to the "same page" we probably need to use the link I have in the patch, but if we want to stay as far away from brands/commercial entities, then probably link to the Wikipedia is better. But in the second case, document reader will need to go to Wikipedia, then follow to links on the Wikipedia page.
> Or as an option we can directly use link from Wikipedia: https://dtrace.org/about/
> Which approach you find more desirable?

I prefer to link to Wikipedia, since that is unlikely to go away.  But
let's hear what others here think about this.

Re: [PATCH 1/1] doc: update link to Oracle DTrace project

[Elena Zannoni]

On 1/18/24 05:23, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: "Sargsyan, Eduard" <eduard.sargsyan@intel.com>
>> CC: "gdb-patches@sourceware.org" <gdb-patches@sourceware.org>
>> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 11:14:53 +0000
>>
>> So should we use link from Wikipedia? If we want to be just replace old link, to the "same page" we probably need to use the link I have in the patch, but if we want to stay as far away from brands/commercial entities, then probably link to the Wikipedia is better. But in the second case, document reader will need to go to Wikipedia, then follow to links on the Wikipedia page.
>> Or as an option we can directly use link from Wikipedia: https://dtrace.org/about/
>> Which approach you find more desirable?
> 
> I prefer to link to Wikipedia, since that is unlikely to go away.  But
> let's hear what others here think about this.

Hi Eli, Eduard,

The docs are indeed on the docs.oracle.com website.

Dtrace.org is not the dtrace for linux work we are doing.

We have a github repo which contains the active development and a
readme.md which explains how to get the various pieces, etc, not sure if
that's is more acceptable: https://github.com/oracle/dtrace-utils

The wikipedia page is pointing to a different CDDL version of dtrace,
which seems to not be in active development.

thanks
elena