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From: Phil Edwards <phil@jaj.com>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
Cc: dhazeghi@yahoo.com, gcc@gcc.gnu.org, binutils@sources.redhat.com,
	gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: srcdir == objdir build issues [SC take note]
Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 18:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030509181925.GD1188@disaster.jaj.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200305091755.h49Htqc21246@greed.delorie.com>

On Fri, May 09, 2003 at 01:55:52PM -0400, DJ Delorie wrote:
> I keep noting that every other source
> package besides gcc is build with "./configure; make" and we'd only be
> surprising the users if we don't allow it.

Very true.

> So here's an idea.  Let's ask the Steering Committee what we should
> support.  Whatever we choose to not support, I'll modify configure to
> detect and just plain fail, so there will be no doubts about the
> situation any more.

There's no reason to make it gratuitously fail.  I implemented a patch
that would solve both problems:  configury only has to deal with out-srcdir
builds, plus the users can do "./configure; make" with no surprises.

You rejected it because it would confuse a user who wanted to debug a
problem but would be confused when objects weren't in the same place as
the sources.  Which means, a user who

 - was proficient enough with computers to be building a compiler from scratch
 - cared enough to investigate the causes of a failed build
 - knew about ".c" files turning into ".o" files

but

 - hadn't read the documentation where we point out separate objdir builds,
 - didn't know how to type "ls" and notice brand new subdirs named "build-*"

I disbelieve such a user exists.


Phil

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-09 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20EC888E-81F7-11D7-9B47-000393681B36@yahoo.com>
2003-05-09 17:55 ` DJ Delorie
2003-05-09 18:19   ` Phil Edwards [this message]
2003-05-09 18:41     ` DJ Delorie
2003-05-09 18:54       ` Phil Edwards
2003-05-09 22:35         ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-05-09 22:14   ` Neil Booth
2003-05-10  1:12 Benjamin Kosnik
2003-05-10  1:40 ` DJ Delorie
2003-05-10  4:56   ` Ian Lance Taylor
2003-05-10  4:57   ` Alexandre Oliva
2003-05-11  0:43   ` Phil Edwards
2003-05-11  0:46     ` DJ Delorie

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