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From: Daniel Jacobowitz <drow@mvista.com>
To: Elena Zannoni <ezannoni@redhat.com>
Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com
Subject: Re: RFC: A mode in which gdb avoids libthread_db
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:32:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030726233201.GA13936@nevyn.them.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16163.4264.817155.564263@localhost.redhat.com>

On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 07:37:12PM -0400, Elena Zannoni wrote:
> Daniel Jacobowitz writes:
>  > Recent Linux kernels (2.5.30 and later; theoretically the latest Red Hat
>  > 2.4.20 kernels also include it, but I observed some badness in testing...)
>  > support some ptrace extensions I designed which make it possible to debug
>  > multi-threaded applications without using libthread_db at all.  The only
>  > things we'll lose are:
>  >   - Potential high-level information, like mutex status - right now we
>  >     don't have this at all on GNU/Linux.
>  >   - TLS access - this could be easily fixed by handling each platform's
>  >     TLS ABI directly from GDB, and there's a comment to that effect in
>  >     GDB's source already.
>  >   - TIDs - we'd only have the application's LWP IDs, not the thread IDs
>  >     that LinuxThreads/NPTL use.
>  > 
>  > Things we'll gain:
>  >   - A lot of libthread_db-related bugs would go away.  For instance,
>  >     the kfail in print-threads.exp, which hits a breakpoint after
>  >     LinuxThreads decides the thread has already exited.
>  >   - ABI simplicity - this would solve the x86-64/i386 issue, and similar
>  >     problems on MIPS.
>  >   - Support for debugging clone-based 1-1 threading which doesn't use
>  >     libpthread.so.
>  > 
>  > Once the pending fork-debugging patch is accepted, most of the machinery
>  > we'd need to do it will be in place, too.  Thoughts?  Worthwhile?
> 
> 
> I know first hand of the pains of mismatched glibcs, binutils,
> kernels, gdbs.  I wouldn't mind having this coexist with the use of
> glibc, is that possible?

Sure.  It could just be a switch or a "set" flag - easy enough.

> What ptrace changes did you do? (Elena needs to start reading
> linux-kernel)

Take a look at the support for "set follow-fork-mode", which I've
posted a few times.  I added:

/* 0x4200-0x4300 are reserved for architecture-independent additions.  */
#define PTRACE_GETEVENTMSG      0x4201
#define PTRACE_GETSIGINFO       0x4202
#define PTRACE_SETSIGINFO       0x4203

/* options set using PTRACE_SETOPTIONS */
#define PTRACE_O_TRACEFORK      0x00000002
#define PTRACE_O_TRACEVFORK     0x00000004
#define PTRACE_O_TRACECLONE     0x00000008
#define PTRACE_O_TRACEEXEC      0x00000010
#define PTRACE_O_TRACEVFORKDONE 0x00000020
#define PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT      0x00000040

They allow a debugger to automatically detect processes as they're
created, and better signal handling.

-- 
Daniel Jacobowitz
MontaVista Software                         Debian GNU/Linux Developer

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-26 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-26 15:58 Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-07-26 23:29 ` Elena Zannoni
2003-07-26 23:32   ` Daniel Jacobowitz [this message]
2003-08-08  2:21     ` Andrew Cagney
2003-07-28 20:53 ` Kevin Buettner

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