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* [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv()
@ 2013-06-12 14:45 hadess at hadess dot net
  2013-06-12 14:55 ` [Bug libc/15607] " ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz
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From: hadess at hadess dot net @ 2013-06-12 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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            Bug ID: 15607
           Summary: Add threadsafe version of getenv()
           Product: glibc
           Version: unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: libc
          Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
          Reporter: hadess at hadess dot net
                CC: drepper.fsp at gmail dot com

gnome-settings-daemon is a daemon running in a GNOME session to apply stored
settings (such as the user's preferred locale) to the running session and its
own children (such as applications launched using the media-keys).

We started hitting SEGVs somewhat randomly recently:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=701322

which are caused by races between getenv() (as used by the glibc's gettext
implementation) and setenv() (called by gnome-settings-daemon to change its own
environment).

Having getenv_r()/setenv_r() would avoid this problem and make our
implementation more straight-forward and cleaner.

[1]: https://bug701322.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=245695

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
  2013-06-12 14:45 [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv() hadess at hadess dot net
@ 2013-06-12 14:55 ` ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz
  2013-06-12 14:58 ` jakub at redhat dot com
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From: ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz @ 2013-06-12 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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OndrejBilka <ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from OndrejBilka <ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz> ---
As 2.18 is release close this will have to wait for 2.19

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
  2013-06-12 14:45 [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv() hadess at hadess dot net
  2013-06-12 14:55 ` [Bug libc/15607] " ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz
@ 2013-06-12 14:58 ` jakub at redhat dot com
  2013-06-12 15:06 ` hadess at hadess dot net
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--- Comment #2 from Jakub Jelinek <jakub at redhat dot com> ---
It is certainly not straightforward or cleaner, if all the uses of getenv in
glibc are converted to a version that requires locking, there will be a
significant cost to all apps out there, not just one particular that does
something like this.
The current behavior of setenv/putenv is clearly documented.
Why exactly do you want to change environment of the running multi-threaded
process, as opposed just making sure that upon exec the executed programs will
get the desired environment?
You can use execle or execvpe functions for that.

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
  2013-06-12 14:45 [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv() hadess at hadess dot net
  2013-06-12 14:55 ` [Bug libc/15607] " ondra at iuuk dot mff.cuni.cz
  2013-06-12 14:58 ` jakub at redhat dot com
@ 2013-06-12 15:06 ` hadess at hadess dot net
  2013-06-12 18:34 ` bugdal at aerifal dot cx
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From: hadess at hadess dot net @ 2013-06-12 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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--- Comment #3 from Bastien Nocera <hadess at hadess dot net> ---
(In reply to Jakub Jelinek from comment #2)
> It is certainly not straightforward or cleaner, if all the uses of getenv in
> glibc are converted to a version that requires locking, there will be a
> significant cost to all apps out there, not just one particular that does
> something like this.
> The current behavior of setenv/putenv is clearly documented.

"The implementation of getenv() is not required to be reentrant."
and
"POSIX.1-2001 does not require setenv() or unsetenv() to be reentrant."

"does not require" vs. "does not require and glibc's implementation is not".

> Why exactly do you want to change environment of the running multi-threaded
> process, as opposed just making sure that upon exec the executed programs
> will get the desired environment?

This is very early in running gnome-settings-daemon (not after minutes, or even
seconds, it's the first thing we do), but we read the stored configuration
using GSettings, which uses D-Bus. That D-Bus implementation (the one in glib)
uses threads, thus with a single call to get the configuration value, we're
using threads.

> You can use execle or execvpe functions for that.

It still makes for pretty complicated and unfriendly code.

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
  2013-06-12 14:45 [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv() hadess at hadess dot net
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Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Rich Felker <bugdal at aerifal dot cx> ---
I agree with Jakub. Programs that are or may be (due to libraries that may use
threads) multi-threaded cannot modify their own environments. There's little
point in modifying your own environment anyway; for executing external
programs, the exec-family functions and posix_spawn both provide interfaces by
which you can specify your own environment for the new process image in a fully
safe manner.

Note that getenv_r could not protect against modifications to the environment
through extern char **environ, nor could setenv_r protect against reads via
environ. Thus, they could only have limited success in making environment
modification "thread-safe".

As far as I'm concerned, this bug report should be filed against
gnome-settings-daemon, not glibc, and it should be fixed by (preferably)
avoiding modification to the environment in the process itself and using the
appropriate exec-type functions, or by generating a completely new environment
and replacing extern char **environ atomically with a pointer to the new
environment.

Note that, if others do end up deeming it desirable to change glibc, the
appropriate change would be having setenv do the above-described atomic
replacement and simply leak the old environment. This would be fully safe with
no locking.

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
  2013-06-12 14:45 [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv() hadess at hadess dot net
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--- Comment #5 from Bastien Nocera <hadess at hadess dot net> ---
(In reply to Rich Felker from comment #4)
<snip>
> As far as I'm concerned, this bug report should be filed against
> gnome-settings-daemon,

The bug has already been reported and fixed against gnome-settings-daemon. Did
you follow the link?

> not glibc, and it should be fixed by (preferably)
> avoiding modification to the environment in the process itself and using the
> appropriate exec-type functions, or by generating a completely new
> environment and replacing extern char **environ atomically with a pointer to
> the new environment.

The problem is that even if we do that, the code sucks, and it's a huge amount
of code compared to what it could be. Do you have a better way to do this?

> Note that, if others do end up deeming it desirable to change glibc, the
> appropriate change would be having setenv do the above-described atomic
> replacement and simply leak the old environment. This would be fully safe
> with no locking.

Per-thread env?

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
  2013-06-12 14:45 [Bug libc/15607] New: Add threadsafe version of getenv() hadess at hadess dot net
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--- Comment #6 from Bastien Nocera <hadess at hadess dot net> ---
I forgot to mention that we have half-a-dozen apps that have similar problems
in the typical desktop stack, including pkexec from PolicyKit, and gdm.

If at least glibc's gettext used getenv_r(), then it would certainly cause less
problems.

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From: neleai at seznam dot cz @ 2013-10-14 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ondrej Bilka <neleai at seznam dot cz> changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Ondrej Bilka <neleai at seznam dot cz> ---
A setenv does locking, you could try to send a patch that adds locking to
getenv. 

> Note that, if others do end up deeming it desirable to change glibc, the 
> appropriate change would be having setenv do the above-described atomic 
> replacement and simply leak the old environment.
> This would be fully safe with no locking.

A atomic part is already done. For leaking part you have problem with current
code:

 /* We allocated this space; we can extend it.  */
      new_environ = (char **) realloc (last_environ,
                                       (size + 2) * sizeof (char *));

which you would need to change to standard doubling of sizes.

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* [Bug libc/15607] Add threadsafe version of getenv()
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Jackie Rosen <jackie.rosen at hushmail dot com> changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Jackie Rosen <jackie.rosen at hushmail dot com> ---
*** Bug 260998 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Seen from the domain http://volichat.com
Page where seen: http://volichat.com/adult-chat-rooms
Marked for reference. Resolved as fixed @bugzilla.

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Colin <walters at verbum dot org> changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Colin <walters at verbum dot org> ---
Rust issue on this: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/24741

Also marking SUSPENDED because I feel like that represents reality.

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--- Comment #10 from Ondrej Bilka <neleai at seznam dot cz> ---
*** Bug 13271 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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