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* [Bug locale/29511] default/C/POSIX locale is 7-bit (127 characters), must be 8-bit (256 characters) since POSIX Issue 7 TC2/Issue 8
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@ 2022-08-30 7:23 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2022-08-30 11:33 ` nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz
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Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CC| |fweimer at redhat dot com
Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
See Also| |http://bugs.debian.org/1017
| |852
Flags| |security-
Resolution|--- |INVALID
--- Comment #1 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
I don't see how this is a bug, sorry.
There is no well-defined conversion from US-ASCII to the internal UCS-4
encoding, so reporting an error for input bytes that do not have a mapping
makes sense.
If another glibc function does not behave as expected (fnmatch?), please file a
separate bug for that.
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* [Bug locale/29511] default/C/POSIX locale is 7-bit (127 characters), must be 8-bit (256 characters) since POSIX Issue 7 TC2/Issue 8
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2022-08-30 12:30 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz @ 2022-08-30 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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--- Comment #2 from наб <nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz> ---
I don't see how that's relevant? The POSIX locale is /not/ US-ASCII: it's
/some/ encoding that contains the PCS and NPCS as the first 128 characters
(this coincides with 7-bit ASCII) /and/ contains mappings from all 256 single
bytes to a character (and back).
This is very obviously listed in the first hunk, which I'll reiterate again:
POSIX.1, Issue 7 TC 2, XBD, 6.2 "Character Encoding" starts with:
> The POSIX locale shall contain 256 single-byte characters including the
characters in Portable Character Set and Non-Portable Control Characters, which
have the properties listed in LC_CTYPE.
The bug here isn't "glibc doesn't decode ASCII [0xfa, 0] to my favourite
character", it's "glibc treats POSIX locale as-if it were ASCII" – which it's
not.
From your response it appears you also haven't consulted bug 663 (an oversight
on my part, it seems I only linked it directly in the Debian bug, and here
indirectly): https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=663 – it contains a
summary of changes that make the Issue 7 TC 2/Issue 8 POSIX locale
as-described.
POSIX.1, Issue 7 TC 2, XSH, mbrtowc(), ERRORS:
-- >8 --
[EILSEQ]
An invalid character sequence is detected. [CX]In the POSIX locale an
EILSEQ error cannot occur since all byte values are valid characters.[/CX]
-- >8 --
(the same text is seen in mbrlen(), mbstowcs(), &c., &c.).
POSIX.1, Issue 7 TC 2, XRAT, XBD, A.6.2 Character Encoding:
-- >8 --
Earlier versions of this standard did not state the requirement that the POSIX
locale contains 256 single-byte characters. This was an oversight; the
intention was always that the POSIX locale should have an 8-bit-clean
single-byte encoding.
-- >8 --
I hope this convinces you that this is not RESOLVED INVALID, but, indeed, a
conformance error.
A different, less messy than the one in my patch (or just making it a KOI-8
variant, which is admittedly the worst one so far), solution I arrived at today
would be to map [0, 0x7F] to [U+0, U+7F] as is done currently and B[0x80, 0xFF]
to C[U+FFFFFF80, U+FFFFFFFF] or C[U+FFFFFF00, U+FFFFFF7F] — I don't think
Unicode will reach that high any-time soon – or to pick a PUA and map to
C[U+100000, U+10007F]/C[U+E080, U+E0FF]/you get the point here – "using glibc"
reasonably fits as a "private agreement between collaborating users".
Changing the CODESET is also, presumably, a given: naively, to "POSIX", I
guess?
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* [Bug locale/29511] default/C/POSIX locale is 7-bit (127 characters), must be 8-bit (256 characters) since POSIX Issue 7 TC2/Issue 8
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2022-08-30 11:33 ` nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz
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2022-08-30 16:06 ` nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2022-08-30 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
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Status|RESOLVED |UNCONFIRMED
Resolution|INVALID |---
--- Comment #3 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Sorry, I had assumed that C was specifically worded in such a way that
implementations could default to UTF-8 if they wanted, and POSIX kept this
possibility.
Not sure what to do about this issue. We had this idea to switch to the UTF-8
character set by default for a long time. It's strange that POSIX no longer
allows that.
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--- Comment #4 from наб <nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz> ---
Out of curiosity, I checked what musl does (represented here by current Void,
musl-1.1.24_10):
-- >8 --
bash-5.1# ./b | paste - - - - - - - -
CODESET=ASCII
00: 0, 0 01: 1, 1 02: 1, 2 03: 1, 3 04: 1, 4
05: 1, 5 06: 1, 6 07: 1, 7
08: 1, 8 09: 1, 9 0a: 1, a 0b: 1, b 0c: 1, c
0d: 1, d 0e: 1, e 0f: 1, f
10: 1, 10 11: 1, 11 12: 1, 12 13: 1, 13 14: 1, 14
15: 1, 15 16: 1, 16 17: 1, 17
18: 1, 18 19: 1, 19 1a: 1, 1a 1b: 1, 1b 1c: 1, 1c
1d: 1, 1d 1e: 1, 1e 1f: 1, 1f
20: 1, 20 21: 1, 21 22: 1, 22 23: 1, 23 24: 1, 24
25: 1, 25 26: 1, 26 27: 1, 27
28: 1, 28 29: 1, 29 2a: 1, 2a 2b: 1, 2b 2c: 1, 2c
2d: 1, 2d 2e: 1, 2e 2f: 1, 2f
30: 1, 30 31: 1, 31 32: 1, 32 33: 1, 33 34: 1, 34
35: 1, 35 36: 1, 36 37: 1, 37
38: 1, 38 39: 1, 39 3a: 1, 3a 3b: 1, 3b 3c: 1, 3c
3d: 1, 3d 3e: 1, 3e 3f: 1, 3f
40: 1, 40 41: 1, 41 42: 1, 42 43: 1, 43 44: 1, 44
45: 1, 45 46: 1, 46 47: 1, 47
48: 1, 48 49: 1, 49 4a: 1, 4a 4b: 1, 4b 4c: 1, 4c
4d: 1, 4d 4e: 1, 4e 4f: 1, 4f
50: 1, 50 51: 1, 51 52: 1, 52 53: 1, 53 54: 1, 54
55: 1, 55 56: 1, 56 57: 1, 57
58: 1, 58 59: 1, 59 5a: 1, 5a 5b: 1, 5b 5c: 1, 5c
5d: 1, 5d 5e: 1, 5e 5f: 1, 5f
60: 1, 60 61: 1, 61 62: 1, 62 63: 1, 63 64: 1, 64
65: 1, 65 66: 1, 66 67: 1, 67
68: 1, 68 69: 1, 69 6a: 1, 6a 6b: 1, 6b 6c: 1, 6c
6d: 1, 6d 6e: 1, 6e 6f: 1, 6f
70: 1, 70 71: 1, 71 72: 1, 72 73: 1, 73 74: 1, 74
75: 1, 75 76: 1, 76 77: 1, 77
78: 1, 78 79: 1, 79 7a: 1, 7a 7b: 1, 7b 7c: 1, 7c
7d: 1, 7d 7e: 1, 7e 7f: 1, 7f
80: 1, df80 81: 1, df81 82: 1, df82 83: 1, df83 84: 1, df84
85: 1, df85 86: 1, df86 87: 1, df87
88: 1, df88 89: 1, df89 8a: 1, df8a 8b: 1, df8b 8c: 1, df8c
8d: 1, df8d 8e: 1, df8e 8f: 1, df8f
90: 1, df90 91: 1, df91 92: 1, df92 93: 1, df93 94: 1, df94
95: 1, df95 96: 1, df96 97: 1, df97
98: 1, df98 99: 1, df99 9a: 1, df9a 9b: 1, df9b 9c: 1, df9c
9d: 1, df9d 9e: 1, df9e 9f: 1, df9f
a0: 1, dfa0 a1: 1, dfa1 a2: 1, dfa2 a3: 1, dfa3 a4: 1, dfa4
a5: 1, dfa5 a6: 1, dfa6 a7: 1, dfa7
a8: 1, dfa8 a9: 1, dfa9 aa: 1, dfaa ab: 1, dfab ac: 1, dfac
ad: 1, dfad ae: 1, dfae af: 1, dfaf
b0: 1, dfb0 b1: 1, dfb1 b2: 1, dfb2 b3: 1, dfb3 b4: 1, dfb4
b5: 1, dfb5 b6: 1, dfb6 b7: 1, dfb7
b8: 1, dfb8 b9: 1, dfb9 ba: 1, dfba bb: 1, dfbb bc: 1, dfbc
bd: 1, dfbd be: 1, dfbe bf: 1, dfbf
c0: 1, dfc0 c1: 1, dfc1 c2: 1, dfc2 c3: 1, dfc3 c4: 1, dfc4
c5: 1, dfc5 c6: 1, dfc6 c7: 1, dfc7
c8: 1, dfc8 c9: 1, dfc9 ca: 1, dfca cb: 1, dfcb cc: 1, dfcc
cd: 1, dfcd ce: 1, dfce cf: 1, dfcf
d0: 1, dfd0 d1: 1, dfd1 d2: 1, dfd2 d3: 1, dfd3 d4: 1, dfd4
d5: 1, dfd5 d6: 1, dfd6 d7: 1, dfd7
d8: 1, dfd8 d9: 1, dfd9 da: 1, dfda db: 1, dfdb dc: 1, dfdc
dd: 1, dfdd de: 1, dfde df: 1, dfdf
e0: 1, dfe0 e1: 1, dfe1 e2: 1, dfe2 e3: 1, dfe3 e4: 1, dfe4
e5: 1, dfe5 e6: 1, dfe6 e7: 1, dfe7
e8: 1, dfe8 e9: 1, dfe9 ea: 1, dfea eb: 1, dfeb ec: 1, dfec
ed: 1, dfed ee: 1, dfee ef: 1, dfef
f0: 1, dff0 f1: 1, dff1 f2: 1, dff2 f3: 1, dff3 f4: 1, dff4
f5: 1, dff5 f6: 1, dff6 f7: 1, dff7
f8: 1, dff8 f9: 1, dff9 fa: 1, dffa fb: 1, dffb fc: 1, dffc
fd: 1, dffd fe: 1, dffe ff: 1, dfff
-- >8 --
Starting at U+DF80 falls into the Low Surrogate Area at DC00-DFFF, which the
chart describes as:
> Isolated surrogate code points have no interpretation; consequently, no character code charts or names lists are provided for this range.
Which is perfect. I'm attaching a diff that adds a POSIX charset that does the
same, and uses it for default/C/POSIX locale, alongside some new tests.
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наб <nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Attachment #14286|0 |1
is obsolete| |
--- Comment #5 from наб <nabijaczleweli at nabijaczleweli dot xyz> ---
Created attachment 14305
--> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=14305&action=edit
CHARSET=POSIX for default/C/POSIX locale, [0x80, 0xFF] in [U+DF80, U+DFFF]
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--- Comment #6 from Bruno Haible <bruno at clisp dot org> ---
I think this is a duplicate of bug #19932.
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