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From: "fweimer at redhat dot com" <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org>
To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org
Subject: [Bug dynamic-link/30127] [rfe]: enable ld audit at run-time
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:46:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-30127-131-9CSEgnuayy@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-30127-131@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/>

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30127

--- Comment #12 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to Stas Sergeev from comment #11)
> (In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #10)
> > I think for experimentation, you can use the link map as a dlopen handle
> > directly, and pass it to dlsym, for example.
> 
> That finally works, thank you.
> So with that and the patches already posted to ML,
> I can at least start prototyping some code.
> 
> 
> > We need to gather consensus that this is the way to do it, and document it.
> > Presently, it's an undocumented implementation detail.
> > 
> > We also need to use a dedicated link map allocator which only reuses, but
> > not frees, the underlying storiage, so that it becomes safe to traverse the
> > _r_debug lists, despite concurrent dlopen/dlcose operation.
> 
> But I hope the traversal of _r_debug list
> will not became the official solution, just
> as well as using linkmap pointers directly.

Why?  The handles are void *, so there isn't any type-checking today, and it's
hard to tell how many applications assume this undocumented equivalence.

Maybe we shouldn't commit to the other direction of reuse (casting a dlopen
handle to struct link_map *), that's a separate decision.

> So maybe you don't need such an allocator,
> but of course I am not aware of a use-case
> you are referring to.

There's no lock that synchronizes the traversal of _r_debug with concurrent
dlopen/dlclose. Introducing that is difficult. Such locks are easily misused,
and there is no precedent for exposing glibc locks in this way.

> > There should also be a way to obtain a stable handle from a link map
> > pointer. Using dlopen with RTLD_NOLOAD seems about right for that.
> 
> So do you want this patch to get that working
> right here right now:
> 
> --- a/elf/dl-open.c
> +++ b/elf/dl-open.c
> @@ -872,7 +872,8 @@ no more namespaces available for dlmopen()"));
>                   DL_NNS is 1 and so any NSID != 0 is invalid.  */
>                || DL_NNS == 1
>                || GL(dl_ns)[nsid]._ns_nloaded == 0
> -              || GL(dl_ns)[nsid]._ns_loaded->l_auditing))
> +              || (GL(dl_ns)[nsid]._ns_loaded->l_auditing &&
> +                                  !(mode & RTLD_NOLOAD))))
>      _dl_signal_error (EINVAL, file, NULL,
>                       N_("invalid target namespace in dlmopen()"));
>  
> I tested that patch and it works.
> Test-suit shows no regressions.

I think we need to do a pass first with pointer-comparison because the names
are not unique per namespace.

> Also what do you think about the aforementioned
> void *dlaudit_load_module(const char *path, int flags);
> void *dlopen_audit(const char *path, int flags, void *cookie);
> extensions?

They seem to have poor encapsulation. If more than one module uses them, the
auditor registered in that way might see unexpected auditing events, with
unrecognizable cookies.

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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-15  8:23 [Bug dynamic-link/30127] New: " stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-16 18:42 ` [Bug dynamic-link/30127] " fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17  2:54 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  7:17 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  8:08 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17  8:38 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  8:56 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17  9:32 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  9:38 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  9:44 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17 10:23 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17 10:59 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17 12:46 ` fweimer at redhat dot com [this message]
2023-02-17 13:43 ` schwab@linux-m68k.org
2023-02-17 13:55 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17 13:57 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-20  8:33 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-21 15:39 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-21 19:43 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-02-21 20:09 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-22 16:46 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-23 16:02 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-02-23 16:35 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-24 18:02 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-25 16:57 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-25 18:49 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-02-25 19:00 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-26 16:54 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-02-26 17:22 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-26 19:22 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-02 14:39 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-02 16:13 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-02 19:56 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-03  6:20 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-03 12:36 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-04 11:33 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-06  9:12 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-06 10:09 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-06 10:56 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-07  8:54 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-07 16:50 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-12  8:42 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13  9:22 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-13  9:41 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-13 10:01 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13 10:46 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13 11:17 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13 20:26 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
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