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From: "stsp at users dot sourceforge.net" <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org>
To: glibc-bugs@sourceware.org
Subject: [Bug dynamic-link/30127] [rfe]: enable ld audit at run-time
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 10:01:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bug-30127-131-FLpoYUGWaA@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-30127-131@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/>

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30127

--- Comment #44 from Stas Sergeev <stsp at users dot sourceforge.net> ---
(In reply to Jonathon Anderson from comment #42)
> After all, all solibs are perfectly functional regardless of whether you
> load it via LD_PRELOAD or dlopen or DT_NEEDED. Shouldn't auditors follow the
> same principle?

Normally yes, but when you bring up
things like "but it should run before
any ctors", then these must be evaluated
case-by-case.


> > Is that picture remotely correct? I guess no, as
> > it is based on too many assumptions from me. :)
> It's in the right direction. The only reason I bring up my use case is as an
> example auditor that would be broken by this dynamic loading feature in its
> current state.

This is a very harsh statement.
Nothing will be broken. At worst, you won't
be able to use that dynamic loading for your
case. Given that you have only 1 auditor, no
intention to change the app and a requirement
for an auditor to run before any ctors, I think
this "worst case" is already unavoidable. :)


> The parallelism issue is present here too. There's no association between an
> la_objsearch and the resulting la_objopen,

I think you can associate by "name".
The name in objsearch and abjopen should
match I think. But I've heard your other
arguments against objsearch, yes.


> Indeed. My primary goal is to ensure the proposed "tools" for your use case
> don't unwittingly destroy my use case in the process. :)

I don't even see why this can be the case.
If it is, why aren't we discussing _that_,
instead of everything else? :)


> If the interface is defined such that no other la_objopen calls from threads
> running in parallel can trigger before that first la_activity(CONSISTENT),
> then I could consider that a reasonable enough solution.

This happens within a single dlmopen() call.
I think its up to glibc to make sure no one
touches the link-map before ACT_CONSISTENT is
reported. And I think you can also use pthread_self()
to check for yourself from which threads things
are called. So when you see la_dynload(), you
remember pthread_self(). Then you know that:
1. Any la_objopen() call with that pthread_self()
   is "late" unless ACT_CONSISTENT was seen with
   that pthread_self().
2. Any la_objopen() call with different pthread_self()
   is not "late".

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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-15  8:23 [Bug dynamic-link/30127] New: " stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-16 18:42 ` [Bug dynamic-link/30127] " fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17  2:54 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  7:17 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  8:08 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17  8:38 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  8:56 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17  9:32 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  9:38 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17  9:44 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17 10:23 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17 10:59 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17 12:46 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-17 13:43 ` schwab@linux-m68k.org
2023-02-17 13:55 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-17 13:57 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-20  8:33 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2023-02-21 15:39 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-21 19:43 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-02-21 20:09 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-22 16:46 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-23 16:02 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-02-23 16:35 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-24 18:02 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-25 16:57 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-25 18:49 ` carlos at redhat dot com
2023-02-25 19:00 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-26 16:54 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-02-26 17:22 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-02-26 19:22 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-02 14:39 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-02 16:13 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-02 19:56 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-03  6:20 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-03 12:36 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-04 11:33 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-06  9:12 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-06 10:09 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-06 10:56 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-07  8:54 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-07 16:50 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-12  8:42 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13  9:22 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-13  9:41 ` janderson at rice dot edu
2023-03-13 10:01 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net [this message]
2023-03-13 10:46 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13 11:17 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-13 20:26 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-14 15:11 ` stsp at users dot sourceforge.net
2023-03-15  5:34 ` janderson at rice dot edu

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