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From: Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com>
To: generic-abi@googlegroups.com
Cc: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>, gnu-gabi@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Audit external function called indirectly via GOT
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180322133034.GR3812@bubble.grove.modra.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOrtf-ma=a4=HHxg1OqucUR5V_n6=6Uci2ntpDJKVrjfHg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 05:39:18AM -0700, H.J. Lu wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:29 AM, Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:15:26PM -0700, Cary Coutant wrote:
> >> If you get rid of the GOT entry, and have the point of call jump
> >> indirectly through the PLTGOT entry, which is initialized to point to
> >> part (b) of the PLT entry, everything should work the same as without
> >> -fno-plt. Essentially, all -fno-plt would do is inline part (a) of the
> >> PLT entry.
> >>
> >> -cary
> >>
> >> * I'm using parts (a) and (b) to refer to the two parts of a PLT
> >> entry: (a) an indirect jump via the PLTGOT entry, and (b) code that
> >> jumps to the lazy binding routine, passing the JUMP_SLOT index.
> >
> > Yes, that essentially is what I've done for -fno-plt on powerpc.
> > The call stub code is inlined while the rest of the PLT is more or
> > less unchanged.  So you get all of the usual lazy-binding features
> > by default, and can use "-z now -z relro" if you want a read-only
> > PLT.
> >
> 
> On x86, PLT is always read-only.  The issue is the writable PLTGOT.

Yes, I do know how the x86 PLT works.  (Or to be more honest, how it
used to work..)  To be clear, I was using PLT to refer to the whole
scheme, ie. the code to do an indirect jump (x86 .plt), plus a table
of addresses (x86 .plt.got), plus code for lazy binding (x86 .plt
again).  Like x86 the powerpc PLT code to do indirect jumps and lazy
binding is read-only nowadays.  -fno-plt on powerpc inlines the code
to do the indirect jump, but leaves the table of addresses and the
lazy binding code functionally unchanged.

> On x86, -fno-plt removes the writable PLTGOT.

I think that may have been a mistake.  You could have kept .plt.got
functionally unchanged, giving you a writable .plt.got by default with
-fno-plt, and read-only when "-z now -z relro".  Just like the usual
-fplt case.

-- 
Alan Modra
Australia Development Lab, IBM

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-22 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-01  0:00 H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00 ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00       ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00           ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Alan Modra
2018-01-01  0:00         ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Alan Modra [this message]
2018-01-01  0:00             ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00   ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00             ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00               ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00                 ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00                   ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00                     ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00               ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00                   ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00           ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00       ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Florian Weimer

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