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From: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
		Generic System V Application Binary Interface
	<generic-abi@googlegroups.com>,
	gnu-gabi@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Audit external function called indirectly via GOT
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 00:00:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMe9rOroiBqfVwcQNnFUR4oPfTRBXo89xvUR=Az9UQh2DL0nzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87po3wo589.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:59 AM, Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell:
>
>> On 03/21/2018 03:04 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> * H. J. Lu:
>>>
>>>>> Could we ship a template for the PLT entries in ld.so instead?  And if
>>>>> needed, map it from the file together with an address array, like this?
>>>>
>>>> This won't work since linker needs to know exactly PLT layout to generate
>>>> JUMP_SLOT relocations for LD_AUDIT.
>>>
>>> Why would we need JUMP_SLOT relocations?  Couldn't we install suitable
>>> interceptors for GLOB_DAT relocations instead, as long as they resolve
>>> to external function symbols?
>>
>> I think your suggestion might work, but why alter the existing
>> behaviour which users expect and is documented in countless linker
>> text books?
>
> If you have references, please add them to the glibc implementation or
> the wiki.  It would certainly help those who are trying to work on the
> code.
>
> My understanding is that the whole thing is quite underdocumented.
> For LD_AUDIT in particular, we only have the Solaris documentation,
> and that's for an independent implementation.
>
>> Existing tooling to process such relocations and entries could
>> remain unchanged and we would continue to support LD_AUDIT.
>
> My understanding is that H.J.'s proposal requires changes when running
> in non-audit mode.  It certainly requires relinking all binaries,
> perhaps even with special flags.

Please see

https://github.com/hjl-tools/glibc/tree/hjl/plt/audit

and

https://github.com/hjl-tools/binutils-gdb/tree/users/hjl/plt/audit

for my glibc and binutils implementations.  My changes are relatively
small and have minimum overhead when LD_AUDIT isn't used.

> Using ld.so-generated thunks for all GLOB_DAT function symbol
> relocations would happen in audit mode only and should work with
> existing binaries which were built with -Wl,-z,now.

It means to put parts of ld into ld.so.  This is a much bigger change.

-- 
H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-22 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-01  0:00 H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00 ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00       ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00           ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Alan Modra
2018-01-01  0:00         ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Alan Modra
2018-01-01  0:00             ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00   ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00           ` H.J. Lu [this message]
2018-01-01  0:00           ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00             ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00               ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00                 ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00                   ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00                     ` Cary Coutant
2018-01-01  0:00             ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00               ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00                 ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00                   ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00     ` Florian Weimer
2018-01-01  0:00       ` H.J. Lu
2018-01-01  0:00         ` Florian Weimer

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