public inbox for gsl-discuss@sourceware.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Brian Gough <bjg@gnu.org>
To: Gerard Jungman <jungman@lanl.gov>
Cc: gsl-discuss@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: gsl container designs
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:48:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3fx7q4mdr.wl%bjg@network-theory.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1259110486.3028.69.camel@manticore.lanl.gov>

At Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:54:46 -0700,
Gerard Jungman wrote:
> Here are header files for a couple different approaches to containers.
> I didn't bother with any implementations; it seems obvious how to
> implement most of these functions.
> 
> The designs are not complete, but they express most of
> the important stuff.

Thanks for the document, I have studied the designs this week.  It
seems that changing to design 1 / 1u / 2 would be trading one set of
problems for another.  Looking at each case, the change doesn't seem
sufficient to justify the compatibility cost.

Regarding the introductory points.

2a+b) While we may have had some kind of goal of supporting C++ I
don't think it's worth encouraging that today as the gap between the
languages has widened so much since the start of the project.

3) Non-levelised types.  These seem to be the price for type safety.
In terms of the look/feel, expressions like &row.vector and
&column.vector don't seem too unnatural to me.

4) I think this can be fixed in the current framework.

5) Since row-major was in the original design it's too much of a break
to change that.

I think the most realistic way forward is to add a multiarray type,
with rank-1, rank-2 and rank-N versions, in the existing framework and
use non-levelised types for const/non-const views to preserve
type-safety.

-- 
Brian Gough

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-04 18:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-25  0:55 Gerard Jungman
2009-11-29 21:04 ` Brian Gough
2009-12-04 18:48 ` Brian Gough [this message]
2009-12-09 21:04   ` using GSL with C++ (was Re: gsl container designs) James Amundson
2009-12-09 21:14     ` Jochen Küpper
2009-12-09 21:54     ` Jari Häkkinen
2009-12-10 11:46     ` Brian Gough
2009-12-10 12:09       ` Brian Gough
2009-12-10 13:42     ` Robert G. Brown
2009-12-10 21:44       ` James Bergstra
2009-12-10 15:15     ` Kevin H. Hobbs
2010-01-06 11:45   ` gsl container designs Tuomo Keskitalo
2010-01-06 15:47     ` Robert G. Brown
2010-01-07  1:50       ` Gerard Jungman
2010-01-07  3:29         ` Robert G. Brown
     [not found]           ` <4a00655d1001062110m139c0a8tf2eae7de67da8f6f@mail.gmail.com>
2010-01-07  5:46             ` Rhys Ulerich
2010-01-07 13:22               ` Robert G. Brown
2010-01-08 20:08           ` Gerard Jungman
2010-01-07 18:29     ` Brian Gough
2010-01-06 12:04 ` Tuomo Keskitalo
2010-01-06 19:57   ` Gerard Jungman

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m3fx7q4mdr.wl%bjg@network-theory.co.uk \
    --to=bjg@gnu.org \
    --cc=gsl-discuss@sourceware.org \
    --cc=jungman@lanl.gov \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).