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From: Andrew Hughes <gnu.andrew@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
Cc: java-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Delete GCJ
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:26:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89282943.385453.1474298756859.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b34b7571-9f85-2244-d5f1-1e694f366ea3@redhat.com>



----- Original Message -----
> On 10/09/16 12:59, NightStrike wrote:
> > Could we at least reach out and see if there's someone else who could
> > be the maintainer?  I noticed gcj patches recently, so there's still
> > interest.
> 
> 1.  It's too late.  We have been discussing this for a long time, and
> we're now doing what we decided.
> 
> 2.  Maintaining GCJ requires a lot of knowledge of both Java and GCC
> internals.  There are very few people in the world with that
> knowledge, and I'm fairly sure I know them by name.
> 

+1.

> 3.  The Classpath library is very old and is unmaintained.  The only
> practical way to update GCJ would be to use the OpenJDK class
> libraries instead, but updating GCJ to use those class libraries is a
> very substantial job.
> 

Classpath is not "unmaintained"; we still fix issues which arise during
bootstrapping IcedTea, for example. Rather, it's an example of the lack
of interesting in updating GCJ that no-one has even merged the most
recent GNU Classpath changes into the GCJ codebase, never mind switching
it to a completely different class library.

If someone is genuinely interested in reviving GCJ, the code will always
be there in the history of the GCC codebase. Keeping around unmaintained
code makes life harder for other GCC developers who work on other parts
of the project.
-- 
Andrew :)

Senior Free Java Software Engineer
Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com)

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-19 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-05 15:13 Andrew Haley
2016-09-05 15:29 ` Matthias Klose
2016-09-05 15:31   ` Andrew Haley
2016-09-05 18:37   ` Eric Gallager
2016-09-05 18:47     ` Andrew Haley
2016-09-05 15:32 ` Matthew Fortune
2016-09-05 15:34   ` Andrew Haley
     [not found] ` <FB08E20B-5ED1-45BA-BFA0-11E7807840D2@gmail.com>
2016-09-05 16:17   ` Andrew Haley
2016-09-06  9:06     ` Richard Biener
2016-09-06  9:08       ` Jakub Jelinek
2016-09-06 21:18         ` Jeff Law
2016-09-07 11:41           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2016-09-09 11:03       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2016-09-05 16:26 ` Gerald Pfeifer
2016-09-05 16:30   ` Andrew Haley
2016-09-05 18:40   ` Eric Gallager
2016-09-30 15:34   ` Andrew Haley
2017-01-22 16:51     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2017-01-22 17:17       ` Per Bothner
2017-01-22 18:41       ` Per Bothner
2017-01-23  9:01         ` Andrew Haley
2017-01-23  9:05           ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-01-23 12:52             ` Per Bothner
2017-01-23 13:42               ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-01-23 14:51                 ` Andrew Haley
2017-01-22 18:36     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2016-09-10 12:00 ` NightStrike
2016-09-11  8:25   ` Andrew Haley
2016-09-19 15:26     ` Andrew Hughes [this message]
2016-10-03 23:12 ` Matthias Klose
2016-10-04  8:40   ` Rainer Orth
2016-10-04  8:41     ` Andrew Haley
2016-10-04 17:23       ` Mike Stump
2016-10-04 17:25         ` Andrew Pinski
2016-10-04 18:40         ` Iain Sandoe
2016-10-05 16:28           ` Jeff Law
     [not found]             ` <2b5de569-1efd-f407-49c2-c9fa84cc5315@ubuntu.com>
2016-10-06 16:16               ` Matthias Klose
2016-10-06 16:43                 ` Rainer Orth
2016-10-06 16:47                   ` Iain Sandoe
2016-10-06 16:54                     ` Matthias Klose
2016-10-06 16:56                       ` Rainer Orth
2016-10-06 17:10                         ` Iain Sandoe
2016-10-06 18:01                         ` Mike Stump
2016-10-06 23:59                           ` Matthias Klose
2016-10-07  8:31                             ` Iain Sandoe
2016-10-10  4:03                               ` Matthias Klose
2016-10-10  7:58                                 ` Iain Sandoe
2016-11-20 20:42                                   ` Matthias Klose
2016-11-21  5:34                                     ` Sandra Loosemore
2016-11-21 10:24                                     ` Iain Sandoe
2016-11-21 12:57                                       ` Matthias Klose
2016-11-21 16:23                                         ` Sandra Loosemore
2016-11-21 16:40                                           ` Matthias Klose
2016-11-21 17:16                                             ` Rainer Orth
2016-11-21 23:23                                               ` Matthias Klose
2016-11-22 17:13                                                 ` Sandra Loosemore
2016-11-29 21:23                                                 ` Jeff Law
2016-11-30  1:11                                                   ` Remove stray '@' from install.texi (was Re: [PATCH] Delete GCJ) David Malcolm
2016-11-30  1:20                                                     ` Sandra Loosemore
2016-11-30  1:26                                                       ` David Malcolm
2016-11-21 17:16                                             ` [PATCH] Delete GCJ Peter Bergner
2016-09-05 22:49 Bernd Edlinger
2016-09-06  0:20 ` Eric Gallager

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