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* Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
@ 2023-11-06 22:28 Carlos O'Donell
  2023-11-07 11:14 ` Florian Weimer
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2023-11-06 22:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha, Paul Eggert, Joseph Myers, Jakub Jelinek,
	Ryan S. Arnold, Alexandre Oliva, Andreas Schwab, Maxim Kuvyrkov

It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
conduct.

With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.

Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
from the community about adopting a CoC.

I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.

Drafts of all the documents are available on the glibc wiki:

"glibc Code of Conduct"
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/Conduct 

"glibc Code of Conduct Response Guide"
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/ResponseGuide

"glibc Code of Conduct Reporting Guide"
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/ReportingGuidelines

"glibc Code of Conduct Committee"
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/Committee

"glibc Code of Conduct FAQ"
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/FAQ

"glibc CoCC Transparency Reports"
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/TransparencyReports (empty boiler plate)

Thank you for all of your support and for reviewing these documents.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

[1] https://gcc.gnu.org/conduct.html
[2] https://sourceware.org/binutils/code-of-conduct/Code-of-Conduct.html


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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-06 22:28 Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc Carlos O'Donell
@ 2023-11-07 11:14 ` Florian Weimer
  2023-11-07 19:02   ` Carlos O'Donell
  2023-11-07 20:01 ` Carlos O'Donell
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2023-11-07 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carlos O'Donell; +Cc: libc-alpha

* Carlos O'Donell:

> It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
> community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
> conduct.
>
> With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
> glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.
>
> Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
> from the community about adopting a CoC.
>
> I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.

There are some references to a Steering Committee.  Is that a reference
to the project stewards?

Thanks,
Florian


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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-07 11:14 ` Florian Weimer
@ 2023-11-07 19:02   ` Carlos O'Donell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2023-11-07 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Weimer; +Cc: libc-alpha

On 11/7/23 06:14, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Carlos O'Donell:
> 
>> It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
>> community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
>> conduct.
>>
>> With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
>> glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.
>>
>> Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
>> from the community about adopting a CoC.
>>
>> I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.
> 
> There are some references to a Steering Committee.  Is that a reference
> to the project stewards?

Thank you! I found two references I missed and fixed them.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-06 22:28 Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc Carlos O'Donell
  2023-11-07 11:14 ` Florian Weimer
@ 2023-11-07 20:01 ` Carlos O'Donell
  2023-11-08 10:05   ` Nick Clifton
  2023-11-08 19:03 ` Joseph Myers
  2023-11-20 21:41 ` Carlos O'Donell
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2023-11-07 20:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha, Paul Eggert, Joseph Myers, Jakub Jelinek,
	Ryan S. Arnold, Alexandre Oliva, Andreas Schwab, Maxim Kuvyrkov,
	Nick Clifton

On 11/6/23 17:28, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
> community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
> conduct.
> 
> With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
> glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.
> 
> Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
> from the community about adopting a CoC.
> 
> I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.
> 
> Drafts of all the documents are available on the glibc wiki:
> 
> "glibc Code of Conduct"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/Conduct 
> 
> "glibc Code of Conduct Response Guide"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/ResponseGuide
> 
> "glibc Code of Conduct Reporting Guide"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/ReportingGuidelines
> 
> "glibc Code of Conduct Committee"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/Committee
> 
> "glibc Code of Conduct FAQ"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/FAQ
> 
> "glibc CoCC Transparency Reports"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/TransparencyReports (empty boiler plate)
> 
> Thank you for all of your support and for reviewing these documents.
> 

I had a really good question offline about the differences between
the codes of conduct so I updated the FAQ with that question.

Updated the FAQ:
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/FAQ
~~~
= How is this different from the GCC Code of Conduct? =

The glibc Code of Conduct is a copy of the GCC Code of Conduct with 
references to the GCC Steering Committee replaced with the glibc
stewards and the mailing address changed.

Aside form the straight forward replacements the code of conduct
between glibc and gcc should be identical. 
~~~

Nick,

When you wrote the binutils CoC did you intend to make it match
the gcc CoC? Were there any substantive changes?


-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-07 20:01 ` Carlos O'Donell
@ 2023-11-08 10:05   ` Nick Clifton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Nick Clifton @ 2023-11-08 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carlos O'Donell, libc-alpha, Paul Eggert, Joseph Myers,
	Jakub Jelinek, Ryan S. Arnold, Alexandre Oliva, Andreas Schwab,
	Maxim Kuvyrkov

Hi Carlos,

On 11/7/23 20:01, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> When you wrote the binutils CoC did you intend to make it match
> the gcc CoC? 

Yes.  My intention was that long term we could have a single Code of
Conduct that would cover as many of the GNU tools as possible.  Thus
simplifying things, making it easier for people who want to contribute
to multiple projects, and allowing for the possibility of a single
CoC committee covering multiple projects.

> Were there any substantive changes?

Apart from changing the email address and names of committee members,
no.  Well I did replace the word "rules" with "guidelines" when talking
about the behaviour expected by the CoC.  But that was it.

Cheers
   Nick



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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-06 22:28 Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc Carlos O'Donell
  2023-11-07 11:14 ` Florian Weimer
  2023-11-07 20:01 ` Carlos O'Donell
@ 2023-11-08 19:03 ` Joseph Myers
  2023-11-08 21:18   ` Carlos O'Donell
  2023-11-20 21:41 ` Carlos O'Donell
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Joseph Myers @ 2023-11-08 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Carlos O'Donell
  Cc: libc-alpha, Paul Eggert, Jakub Jelinek, Ryan S. Arnold,
	Alexandre Oliva, Andreas Schwab, Maxim Kuvyrkov

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, Carlos O'Donell wrote:

> It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
> community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
> conduct.
> 
> With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
> glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.
> 
> Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
> from the community about adopting a CoC.
> 
> I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.

I support adoption of the CoC.

> "glibc Code of Conduct FAQ"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/FAQ

Note: "within the context of the GCC project" should refer to glibc, not 
GCC.

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
joseph@codesourcery.com

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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-08 19:03 ` Joseph Myers
@ 2023-11-08 21:18   ` Carlos O'Donell
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2023-11-08 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Joseph Myers
  Cc: libc-alpha, Paul Eggert, Jakub Jelinek, Ryan S. Arnold,
	Alexandre Oliva, Andreas Schwab, Maxim Kuvyrkov

On 11/8/23 14:03, Joseph Myers wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> 
>> It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
>> community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
>> conduct.
>>
>> With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
>> glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.
>>
>> Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
>> from the community about adopting a CoC.
>>
>> I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.
> 
> I support adoption of the CoC.

Thank you for your feedback Joseph.

>> "glibc Code of Conduct FAQ"
>> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/FAQ
> 
> Note: "within the context of the GCC project" should refer to glibc, not 
> GCC.

Fixed. Thank you!

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


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* Re: Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc.
  2023-11-06 22:28 Seeking feedback for the adoption of a Code of Conduct for glibc Carlos O'Donell
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2023-11-08 19:03 ` Joseph Myers
@ 2023-11-20 21:41 ` Carlos O'Donell
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2023-11-20 21:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha, Paul Eggert, Joseph Myers, Jakub Jelinek,
	Ryan S. Arnold, Alexandre Oliva, Andreas Schwab, Maxim Kuvyrkov,
	Jason Merrill, Nick Clifton

On 11/6/23 17:28, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> It is critical that we support the growing and continued diversity of our
> community by providing in writing the expectations that we have for our
> conduct.
> 
> With both gcc [1] and binutils [2] having adopted a CoC I have created a
> glibc Code of Conduct based on the one for gcc.
> 
> Over the course of the next month (November) I would like to get feedback
> from the community about adopting a CoC.
> 
> I would like to hear from the other project stewards on this decision.
> 
> Drafts of all the documents are available on the glibc wiki:

...

> "glibc Code of Conduct Committee"
> https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/Committee

At present I have volunteered as a Code of Conduct Committee member, but
I would be seeking additional volunteers to serve for a time-limited term
on the committee.

I would expect we would need 4 or more members from the community to
effectively run a code of conduct committee.

I started writing on onboarding and offboarding guide for CoCC members:
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/OnBoarding
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/CoC/OffBoarding

I hope that this helps answer any questions about the CoC and the CoCC.

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


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